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Menopause vs Basenjis - PLEASE READ my story! This is very important!

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  • Tayda_LennyT

    Woah Sadie! This IS unbelievable! I'm so glad you now have an answer to the previously unsolved mystery of their hair falling out! Hopefully they will be back to having full coats in no time!

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    Michelle

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  • SyberSadeS

    Sorry I didn't proof read my post everybody. All of my quotes and apostrophes are now question marks! blah!!!

    Sadie

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  • SyberSadeS

    @Tayda_Lenny:

    Woah Sadie! This IS unbelievable! I'm so glad you now have an answer to the previously unsolved mystery of their hair falling out! Hopefully they will be back to having full coats in no time!

    Me too, Michelle! It's been a loooooooong road…...and extremely expensive, too!

    Thanks!

    Sadie

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  • QuercusQ

    Wow! I had heard about this somewhere else recently, and now I don't remember where. I am so sorry that you all had to go through that.

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • nobarkusN

    Wow Sadie that's something and much, much effort and expense on your part to find the cause. I've heard of this too some time ago but totally forgot about it.

    Buddy, Paolo and Dan

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  • SyberSadeS

    :mad: Here's what my poor Haley looks like after nearly 3 years of exposure to the topical Estrogen/Estradiol spray EvaMist. :(

    Is it not bad enough that she has to also have Fanconi?????!!!!!!!!
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    Sadie

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  • SyberSadeS

    Here's a pic of my sweet, handsome Prince as we got him….....and one after nearly two years of exposure :(

    How sad is this????!!!!!!!
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    Sadie

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  • QuercusQ

    That is really interesting…it looks totally like a thyroid condition, but that makes sense..since thyroid, reproductive hormones and metabolic issues are all connected. I wonder if the AVMA has sent out a bulletin or something about this to their members...seems like it might be a good idea, so they can catch it right away...

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • eeeefarmE

    Hormones are very powerful, and can have dramatic effects. Your story doesn't surprise me, only that it took so long for an experienced vet to nail the diagnosis. When more than one dog is involved, look for something in the environment for sure. I'm surprised it took so long for someone to do a thorough look at blood work and discover the abnormality. Glad you have found the answer, and thank you for posting it as a heads up for others.

    "In order to get along with a Basenji, you have to be at least half as smart as the dog!"

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  • SyberSadeS

    @Quercus:

    That is really interesting…it looks totally like a thyroid condition, but that makes sense..since thyroid, reproductive hormones and metabolic issues are all connected. I wonder if the AVMA has sent out a bulletin or something about this to their members...seems like it might be a good idea, so they can catch it right away...

    I agree. I will be reporting it to the FDA and the specialty vet is working on a report for a vet convention in Canada, too. I'm going to tell anyone who'll listen! ;)

    Sadie

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  • nobarkusN

    Sadie,
    I would hurt to send blood samples to Dr Dodds or OFA for a full thyroid check. Most vets cannot perform the more complete test.

    Buddy, Paolo and Dan

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  • SyberSadeS

    @nobarkus:

    Sadie,
    It wouldn't hurt to send blood samples to Dr Dodds or OFA for a full thyroid check. Most vets cannot perform the more complete test.

    Hi Dan,
    Who is Dr Dodds and the OFA? (color me BLOND! teehee)
    Sadie

    Sadie

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  • nobarkusN

    Dr Dodds does the more extensive thyroid test in S. CA at the lab, Hemopet
    http://www.hemopet.org/

    OFA (Orthopedic Foundation for Animals) does the Fanconi DNA testing we all get and they will help you with the thyroid test too. They have a list of approved labs.
    http://www.offa.org/thy_labs.html

    You would need to get the blood drawn and shipped from your local vet to either of these labs. They provide complete instructions for you and the vet on what to do.

    Buddy, Paolo and Dan

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  • QuercusQ

    @nobarkus:

    Sadie,
    I would hurt to send blood samples to Dr Dodds or OFA for a full thyroid check. Most vets cannot perform the more complete test.

    I agree; if nothing else, I am sure Dr. Dodds would love to learn more about this phenomenon

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • MacPackM

    Maybe vets, like human docs, start along one diagnosis track and are so focused they don't think outside the box. In retrospect, all that you say, eeeefarm, makes perfect sense! Especially both dogs being involved. Note to vets, bald dogs belonging to 40-ish females: check hormone levels!

    So goad you have an answer at last, hopefully they will be furry little critters soon!

    Anne in Tampa

    Chipley, Missy & Lucky

    Topper, Nicky & Eddie in the clouds

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  • tanzaT

    Very interesting and does make perfect sense… I am glad now that I went through menopause "naked".. so to speak. However it was not fun....:(

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • SyberSadeS

    Thank you everyone…......especially Anne "my new best friend" in Tampa who suggested that I might only be 40-ish!!! :) hehe

    Sadie

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  • agilebasenjiA

    WOW - thanks for sharing. I wonder about people babysitting small children, does it rub off on them? I'm guessing it rubbed off on the dogs, or were they licking you?

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  • eeeefarmE

    Just for interest sake, I ran the scenario by my niece, who is a vet. She knew about the connection…...and would have nailed it. Nice to know she is on top of things like this.

    "In order to get along with a Basenji, you have to be at least half as smart as the dog!"

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  • C

    Topical human hormones and animals was mentioned in this

    thread

    Hope I did this right.

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