Uh-Oh…Drama

[ComicDom1]

I just do not get it. If no one was bitten, what right do they have to hold your dog. This all sounds fishy to me and I would start pressing the issue and think about contacting an attorney. I would pay the fine, and then make them present you with a copy of the statue that gives them the right to hold your animal. In fact I would demand that in writing.

Jason

[ComicDom1]

@Capt_Jack_our_Basenji:

WELL I finally get things settled down with Jack and the baby and everything and then new drama @@!! Our neighbors (for some Ungodly reason) HATE HATE HATE Jack (And they make sure I know that) I have NO Idea why except that Jack LOVES to Yodel when he is outside and our neighbor says (and I quote) "Your stupid dog sounds like a dying Wolf when he makes that Annoying NOISE!"…oooh it took everything in me to laugh that off...I have been keeping my cool, Letting their dog kill my tree by peeing on it everyday, letting their cat soil on our porch where Aiden plays in his swimming pool, and NOT calling the animal control on their dog and cat being off leash...But the other day I was home and put Jack out to potty and mopped the floors and next thing I know I look out the back door and see our neighbor cutting Jacks collar!! When I ran out there he said "Oh I was just petting Jack and he took off!" (Still cant find Jacks Collar) Then he called Animal control & the police while I was out there catching Jack!! So They came and gave me a ticket for having Jack off the leash and Told me they have to hold him for 14 days incase he bit anyone while he was loose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys, Im SO stressed out about this! its not like I can just move...I told the police I saw the neighbor cutting Jack loose and they said since we cant prove it they only Told the neighbor that he isnt allowed on my property or touching Jack without my permission! And thats it, but I got a 92$ ticket!! Jacks fine!! Im miserable without him for TWO Weeks!!! I went to visit him today and I cried while he cried to me thru the fence! he was "rooo-rooing" and my heart broke! The shelter said after hearing my side of it all that they are going to let me "quarantine" Jack at my house...but I still have to pay the fine @@...Ive asked if I can visit Jack and take him for walks while hes there so he doesnt think Ive abandoned him...Please pray for Jack and his SAFE return home!! (hopfully sooner than 14 days!!) Thanks

Unless your dog has bitten someone, they have no right to hold him. They can only hold him if he has bitten someone and that does not seem to be the case here. Thats like saying I am going to have to write you a ticket in case you were speeding. Start threatening to sue them. Print out a copy of what I have posted below and have them show you where it allows them to quarentine your dog. Its time for your to start complaining loudly. See the link below

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2004/rpt/2004-R-0308.htm

[sharronhurlbut]

Lets hope he gets home soon.

[renaultf1]

This whole story is terrible. Please be very careful with Jack and these neighbors…I'd hate to hear that they actually hurt him. They sound like the sorts of people that you read about that would do something like feed him poison, seriously. I mean, if they are going to do something like cut his collar, something is seriously wrong with them. I also wonder if the neighbors didn't say something to the tune of Jack biting them sometime previously for the police to invoke that sort of quarantine.

How old are these people and are they new neighbors? Is this happening at a house or a condo (where there is a common area) because it sounds really brazen to walk up on someone else's property right outside of a window. Wow.

I kind of like the idea that someone previously posted about asking the police to go and make a friendly visit and warn them about the consequences of being video taped trespassing. It is possible that would scare them enough to stay away.

Unbelievable. Keep us posted, please!

[Schouiffy]

@ComicDom1:

Unless your dog has bitten someone, they have no right to hold him. They can only hold him if he has bitten someone and that does not seem to be the case here. Thats like saying I am going to have to write you a ticket in case you were speeding. Start threatening to sue them. Print out a copy of what I have posted below and have them show you where it allows them to quarentine your dog. Its time for your to start complaining loudly. See the link below

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2004/rpt/2004-R-0308.htm

I thought that too - but this article was a response to a legal question. You have to actually read into the law itself to find validation in the officer's actions. Here is their justification

Citation: CT ST § 22-327 to § 22-367a

Citation: C.G.S.A. § 22-327 to § 22-367a
Under Title 22 of CT LAW

§ 22-332. Impoundment and disposition of roaming, injured or mistreated animals

(a) The Chief Animal Control Officer, any animal control officer or any municipal animal control officer shall be responsible for the enforcement of this chapter and shall make diligent search and inquiry for any violation of any of its provisions. Any such officer may take into custody (1) any dog found roaming in violation of the provisions of section 22-364, (2) any dog not having a tag or plate on a collar about its neck or on a harness on its body as provided by law or which is not confined or controlled in accordance with the provisions of any order or regulation relating to rabies issued by the commissioner in accordance with the provisions of this chapter,

Jack's collar was cut by her neighbor, therefore he was "roaming" and untagged and uncontrolled, completely submitting him to the law stated above.. He growled at the cops as well (be it deserved!!) , under CT law - they have a right to take him.

[LiveWWSD]

Ok so I have been reading this thread since you posted it, and I think today I am finaly calm enough to respond without using nasty words.

I am so sorry to hear that you and Jack have had to go through this, it just rips at my heart that there are people out there like your neighbors.

I am with Sharron on just letting Karma choose when and were to teach these people a lesson on what being a nasty individual brings.

Please know that your family is in all our thoughts as you go through this. Hopefully you can find a good method for keeping your furbaby safe from those maniacs that you (unfortunatly) have to call neighbors.

[ComicDom1]

@Schouiffy:

I thought that too - but this article was a response to a legal question. You have to actually read into the law itself to find validation in the officer's actions. Here is their justification

Citation: CT ST § 22-327 to § 22-367a

Citation: C.G.S.A. § 22-327 to § 22-367a
Under Title 22 of CT LAW

§ 22-332. Impoundment and disposition of roaming, injured or mistreated animals

(a) The Chief Animal Control Officer, any animal control officer or any municipal animal control officer shall be responsible for the enforcement of this chapter and shall make diligent search and inquiry for any violation of any of its provisions. Any such officer may take into custody (1) any dog found roaming in violation of the provisions of section 22-364, (2) any dog not having a tag or plate on a collar about its neck or on a harness on its body as provided by law or which is not confined or controlled in accordance with the provisions of any order or regulation relating to rabies issued by the commissioner in accordance with the provisions of this chapter,

Jack's collar was cut by her neighbor, therefore he was "roaming" and untagged and uncontrolled, completely submitting him to the law stated above.. He growled at the cops as well (be it deserved!!) , under CT law - they have a right to take him.

Your point is well taken except, if she has proof that the dog has a current Rabie shot, then it affects their right to hold that dog and should be challanged. They already gave her a ticket for the roaming according to what I read. It also clearly states that the dog has to have bitten to be held.

Jason

[ComicDom1]

One thing I am curious about is did Jack have a martingale collar on him? If so then maybe you can get another one and approach the control officer and demonstrate how the collar will not come of the dog unless taken off and/or cut off. That might help sway the Animal control person to give more credit to your story.

Jason

[sharronhurlbut]

I know lawyers are expensive, but I would see if one would let you see if they can do anything for you.
Maybe even just a letter to the animal control and the neighbors.
That might get their attention.
Myself, I would be checking to see what I needed to do to keep this from happening again.
A lawyer would know, so might be worth the expense.

[Schouiffy]

well from reading it - IMO personally… I think that law is not stating that the only way a dog for a dog to be held is due to a proven bite (there is at least 2 other infractions which call for quarantine.) It further elaborates that each county can have their own leash and bite ordinances. Although we might be able to read CT's general dog laws - we do not know what's in effect in Jack's county.

That all being wordy and perhaps irrelevant at this juncture, I would be taking the offensive steps towards making sure the neighbors can't strike again.. Seems to me they are the animals the control officers should be quarantining.. Sharron makes a good point to, a lawyer might be very valuable here.

Do you know anything about these ppl ? Was there a problem with them before Jack's yodeling???

[EskiLovr]

The law says the animal control officer can "take into custody" a roaming animal. That isn't the same as quarantine, is it? I wouldn't think so, and since the language for known bites specifies quarantine, if that were the case, the same term should be used.

[torchsong]

Wow. I think if I saw a neighbor doing something like that to She-Ra's collar the police wouldn't really have to worry about taking my dog into custody. Screw with me, screw with my family…but don't touch my dog.

That said, don't go looking for revenge on these people, but be vigilant. If he's brazen enough to come on your property and mess with your dog, he's probably got no problem doing something a lot worse. I believe in karma, but sometimes karma needs a little help, too. That said, god help his cat if it ended up on my side of the fence, so to speak.

And there's something just fundamentally wrong with someone who doesn't appreciate a good baroo, anyhow.

I'm really sorry for what's happening to you right now, but moreso for poor Jack. Just try and concentrate on how much fun it will be when the two of you are reunited on (hopefully before) the 26th.

[JazzysMom]

I recall that Kira's dh is in the Navy – do you live in base housing? If so, then they have their own laws/regulations and are typically much stricter about things like this than state and county laws.

[Rivermoon]

I'm just reading this and can't believe what some people will stoop to doing! Please be careful of these people, I'd worry about what else they are capable of. Poor Jack..and you for having to be without him for so long. I hope he's able to come home sooner then the 26th.

[Mantis]

i call a basenji party at your house.

I would be very careful about poisoning if they came into your yard and did that. I would have some serious confrontation! I would definately have him supervised all of the time in case they try something again. I think a video camera might do some good as well. Fing aholes in my humble opinion.

[ChaseandZahrasmom]

@Mantis:

i call a basenji party at your house.

I second this motion, I say we all come visit Kira for the day and let the B's have a howling good time! Or should I say yodeling good time!

[Capt_Jack_our_Basenji]

Id LOVE having a B party at my place, Then the neighbors will she how perfect they are and fall in love with a baroo here and there! I think that the only reason this is happening is as a retaliation for my saying" please dont let your dog poop on my porch" That seemed to pss him off…but Oh well. Im definatly going to have to let Jack suffer for this and ONLY let him our for short periods of time...and make him stay in no matter how much he cries by the back door. As for all the details, Jack has to be there for 14 days because he was "seen acting visously around the neighborhood" and the neighbor must have said he was niped at, who knows...I dont want to get all ruffed up about it because Im hoping I can "kill them with kindness" and not let them see that i was affected. We are to be moved shortly anyway into a one story home with no carpets in housing (my allergies) so Im not Happy about Jack being away, but at least he is coming home and he is ok! Thats all that really matters. I want to thank you all for your prayers and concerns and Ill be posting some "Home From Jail" Pictures of Jack when I get my baby back on the 26th!!! Only a few more days!!

[tanza]

Poor Jack, after all that work you put into him with your family.. to keep him part of the family…. I really feel for your family... and poor Jack most of all....

[LeeL]

Man, this sucks for you. I will say that being nice to the neighbors is probably a good thing (and more than I would likely be able to do), but don;t think you will change them at all. Anyone who would go over and take a dog off his lead or cut a collar, then call the police is beyond conversion.

I think you are right to not let Jack out any more than absolutely needed until you move.

[elena86]

I'm so sorry for Jack and your family to have to go through this. There should be a special place in hell for people like your neighbors. Some people are just pure evil. It's good that you'll be getting away from those people soon. Poor Jack! In the meantime, don't let him out of your sight when he's in the yard. Is there some way you can walk him on a leash while pushing Aiden in a stroller?