I wish they could go everywhere with me but I couldn't imagine trying to get them on a plane. We are going to lake Erie in a couple week for a long weekend and they are coming with us. This campground is very dog friendly, this is the campground's annual halloween party before shutting down for the winter. Everyone is asking us to bring our dogs and of course they will be dressed up in costumes. After that we are taking a week to go to Cancun. Dog's can't go but will staying with a friend that has 1 acre fenced and her 3 dogs and mine were practically raised together. So we call it a sleepover. Everyone plays until exhaused so not a lot of time to get into trouble. I will miss them while I'm gone but know they are in great hands with my friend.
What to do when gates don't work.
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When we lived in an apartment and needed to give our cats a "safe room" what we did is put two gates across the doorway. We would leave a small gap between them that the cats could easily jump through but the dog could not. You can even do it with the gates that have doors in them so you can open them to walk through though the opening would probably be a little narrow for getting you laundry through.
Now that we live in our own house, the best solution was putting a cat door in the door so the cats can get into the room but the dogs don't fit through the opening so are stuck on the other side.
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Yes, kitty doors work well.
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Just wait. We were at a friends house this weekend, and Indi figured out how to knock the gate over!!! Don't know how but he repeated the process multiple times.
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Sugar just jumps over them as if they weren't there.
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When I first acquired EL D I used a plexiglass gate instead of one with the cross bars. Because it was a solid sheet of plexiglass there was nothing for him to climb on (he wasn't a jumper thank goodness).
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I ended up doing the two gates stacked on top with a small gap in between yesterday while I was out. It worked well, but Lola's so tiny I'm afraid she'll figure out how to get between some day. Its funny… when we got Booger he's just always been so laid back, not terribly destructive or mischevious aside from puppy shoe chewing & ocassional trash getting into.
Lola is just so much more clever & naughty... we figured we wouldn't end up with a second basenji as well behaved as Booger is when he's alone, but its a challenge sometimes trying to outsmart her. And of course, don't tell Booger, but Lola is my favorite & that's one of the reasons why
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Another idea for you is to keep the cat litter and cat food in the cat safe area up high where a cat can jump to get it but a b can't. Then you could try to go back to 1 gate for a cat roaming area. Maybe once Lola realizes that even if she jumps the gate, there's nothing yummy that she can reach, she may stop trying to get over the gate at all.
I don't know about your cats but a cat door wouldn't work for my girl as her butt is bigger than Beegin's! (Hey she is 13 so she is allowed to be a lazy girl now.):p
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Ok… I need to find a solution for my B. I decided that it may not be the best idea to crate him during the day after he learned how to eject the plastic pan from underneath the crate, leaving the carpet exposed (and that was a fun surprise to come home to).
He's got crate phobia like a lot of the other B's and I personally just cannot leave him in there like that.
I have a section in my condo where I can leave him a good 80 sq ft or so to roam around with nothing that he can get into. The floors are all granite in that area, no chance of him destroying those unless his teeth are diamond tipped.
So reading the failure of gates, any recommendations for blocking off an opening of a little over 3' wide?
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And for reference, this is the area I am blocking off:
It's probably closer to 90-100sqft.
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LOL, floor to ceiling wall!… Seriously... you could have a gate built, that is what we did for two places in our home. One by the entry to the front door and the other at the bottom of the stairs to the dog room (which goes into the laundry room with doggy door outside.
I would suggest at least 4ft high
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Seriously, I suggest scat mats.
After stepping on ours one time, Keoki doesn't even attempt to get up the stairs. He stands near the mat and just whines up the stairs – and he is our "difficult" dog, the one that broke three gates trying to get to the cats up there! One could easily be used to block a door way.
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Seriously, I suggest scat mats.
After stepping on ours one time, Keoki doesn't even attempt to get up the stairs. He stands near the mat and just whines up the stairs – and he is our "difficult" dog, the one that broke three gates trying to get to the cats up there! One could easily be used to block a door way.
And they do not hurt the dog in any way.Interesting….. I just googled this and it seems like a very intriguing concept.
Thanks for the tip. This should work perfectly if it is indeed effective.
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And they do not hurt the dog in any way.
I will disagree with this statement. Scat Mats work by delivering a static shock as an aversive. I build up a lot static electricity and end up getting shocked by many things, I do think that getting zapped hurts.
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I will disagree with this statement. Scat Mats work by delivering a static shock as an aversive. I build up a lot static electricity and end up getting shocked by many things, I do think that getting zapped hurts.
Considering a 9V battery powers it, I doubt it's anything remotely close to causing damage.
I'm going to give this a try.
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Though the shock delivered may not cause physical damage, it does cause pain and there can be mental consequences.
In my car, I use plastic Vari-Kennel crates, for whatever reason they began building a static charge and would zap my dogs when getting in or out. I did realize right away what was going but my boy's reaction very dramatic. He would cringe and act as if he was going to be hit when asked to get in the car. I now make sure that the crates are all well sprayed with static spray periodically. Though my boy was not physcially damaged, it most definitely had a negative impact on him.
It is important to be aware of how these devices work and watch closely for signs that it is effecting the mental health of the animal not just to worry about physical consequences.
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I will disagree with this statement. Scat Mats work by delivering a static shock as an aversive. I build up a lot static electricity and end up getting shocked by many things, I do think that getting zapped hurts.
Well, let me put it this way – my kids and the little girl I babysit who is 6 yrs old, like to stand on it in their sock feet for fun; they giggle and say it has a tickle. And before I placed it on the floor, I touched it with my bare hand and it wasn't at all painful.
It's more a startle effect than a hurt.
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Though the shock delivered may not cause physical damage, it does cause pain and there can be mental consequences.
In my car, I use plastic Vari-Kennel crates, for whatever reason they began building a static charge and would zap my dogs when getting in or out. I did realize right away what was going but my boy's reaction very dramatic. He would cringe and act as if he was going to be hit when asked to get in the car. I now make sure that the crates are all well sprayed with static spray periodically. Though my boy was not physcially damaged, it most definitely had a negative impact on him.
It is important to be aware of how these devices work and watch closely for signs that it is effecting the mental health of the animal not just to worry about physical consequences.
But you were trying to make him jump into the thing that was uncomfortable to him. I mean, if I were trying to make Keoki stand on the mat, I'm sure it would do some psychological damage.
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Well I'm going to wait it out a bit longer. He didn't do too bad today. I left him a fleece blanket that he likes to shred. He never eats any of the pieces so there isn't much of a worry here. He also has a kong filled with treats along with a bone. Maybe this will help him adjust but he didn't seem very stressed out when I got home. If things get worse i'll look into the scat mat. But for now I want to give him a chance since he still hasn't gone the lengths of injuring himself.
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He avoids the mat because it causes him pain which is the same reason Nicky wanted to avoid exiting or entering his crate.
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He avoids the mat because it causes him pain which is the same reason Nicky wanted to avoid exiting or entering his crate.
I own and use a mat, so I speak from personal experience with them. I touch the mat; my children touch the mat. It is not painful; it is indeed startling if you aren't expecting it. It is merely a funny "wiggly" feeling if you are.
He avoids the mat because it doesn't act like the floor is "supposed" to act; the floor is not supposed to wiggle. He is not afraid of it; he will walk right up to the edge and sniff it several times a day.We will have to agree to disagree on this one.
