Just as likely... could be bitch nearby who is in heat. Do you have close neighbors with bitches?
Almost 2 years old, diagnosed with a neurological disorder today
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I am so sorry to hear of your B's illness, I will pray for him. I know how it is to love a B the way that you do, my B, Sahara is also a very important member of our family. I hope you get good news soon, and will find a way to beat his diagnosis.
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Thank you to everyone for your support and prayers. It is nice to hear from people who understand just how much you can love an animal like this.
We got the blood and urine test results today. The bloodwork came back clean, no storage products detected in the blood cells! This isn't a guarantee, but we think it's a very good sign towards ruling out the worst case.
He does have a potential urinary tract infection though. The lab is doing a culture to confirm and find out what the best antibiotic is to get rid of it. This comes as a surprise to us as he hasn't had any apparent symptoms recently (other than the fact that he has seemed more thirsty lately).
We're dropping him off for the chest x-ray tomorrow, this is just routine to confirm that he's A-OK to go ahead for the MRI (and maybe a spinal tap, uugh! my poor boy!)
This will all likely take place early next week, just in time for the money to transfer out of the savings account
We haven't contacted the breeder just yet, we are waiting to see if we can get a better idea of just what the cause of all of this is. But we will definitely be giving them updates.
I think we're more fortunate than most people who have puppies with ataxia symptoms. It seems that the more severe cases show up shortly after birth and there is often nothing that can be done, which must be absolutely heartbreaking.
Our Trent is running around right now, with his clumsy little gait. He's completely mobile, unless he's on slippery tile, where he struggles mightily.
Khanis, were you ever able to determine the exact cause of Leeno's cerebral ataxity? Was it a brain or spinal deformity, some form of storage disorder or other systematic defect? We're just curious because, like Vanessa and Alex, we can't find much information about these kinds of disorders in Basenji's.
Thanks again to everyone for the support, it does help!
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Some pictures for everyone…
Trent at right around 2 months old:
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I am so sorry to hear about your B's problems. I hope it turns out to be the best case scenario. My prayers to you and your adorable guy.
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Leeno was Vanessa/Alex's boy.. but he is the one that I mentioned, as I am his breeder.
I do encourage you to pick up that phone right away and contact his breeder. I have not heard ofthese kinds of issues in basenjis in all my years with them, but that does not mean they are not there…. there is not a place for them to be documented, i.e., OFA or CERF, etc.When Vanessa called me about Leeno, I had a hard time grasping what she was talking about. I had to google it [she emailed me the name so I had it spelled right]. I called my vet and talked to him, he had seen it only in cats. The prognosis he gave me was not very promising. Vanessa and I agreed to meet when I came down to the Nor Cal specialty a week or so later. I was shocked ot say the least in what I saw in Leeno. After Vanessa and Alex left Leeno with me, I just sat in my van and held him and cried. It was not something I'd ever wish for an animal or person to have on themselves.
The dam of my litter was African Avongara and there was some regluar health testing on the imports and a few down the line, but not all of them. Her dam had no health testing at all. So we were going on word that there was all good health there.
The sire did not have anything like that in his horizontal or vertical pedigree that we had ever been informed about… so it is hard to say if anything like that was back there.My vet said that it was a real fluke of nature and it is a one in 10,000 or 100,000 _chance of it occuring in any animal.
I am sorry that Vanessa/Alex had to have this happen to their baby, but it is not anything that could have been predicted in any way.
PLEASE call the breeder… they do deserve to know about this sooner than later._
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I noticed that Avongara Tribal Singer (which is the dam you mentioned, I believe) was littermate to Avongara Nagili. She's in my Zip's pedigree and she passed away at 9 from Cushing's disease. I was wondering if that was significant at all but Cushing's affects the Endocrine system and cerebellar ataxia is neurological so I don't think there's a connection. It just struck me that they were from the same litter…
Best wishes for Trent...
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I am so sorry to read about all you are going through! I hope that the tests find something that is easily managed and will allow you and Trent to get along with your lives! Be strong for him, he's still the happy pup you know and love!
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Thanks again to everyone for the support.
We will definitely be contacting the breeder, but I want to wait for the MRI results first, as if this is a 'mechanical' issue then I think that's important to know.
The chest x-ray came back normal yesterday, so he's good to go for the MRI next week.
Also, Vanessa sent me a very touching email about her experience with Leeno (so many similarities to Trent that I cried), thanks again Vanessa!
Khanis, I read that Leeno was Vanessa & Alex's boy, and that you were kind enough to take him back when the cerebral ataxia took over. I re-read what I wrote and can see where it might have seemed otherwise. Sorry about that!
I know I'm asking you (as well as Vanessa and Alex) to recall a painful memory, but can you tell us anything about the timing of Leeno's progression? How old was he when the symptoms first showed up, and how long did it take for the symptoms to severely worsen? I'm asking because it seems that Trent has stabilized as far as symptoms go. He's clumsy, still 'knuckles' over on the front and sometimes the back paws, has a hard time when standing in one place as far as balance goes… but other than that he's OK.
Thanks again to everyone, more updates when we know.
Also, GO BEARS! (and White Sox!)
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Oh, goodness, thoughts and hearts going out to you and your sweet boy.:( And thanks again for everyone who keeps this forum going - it is so valuable in good times and bad.
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Sorry it took so long to come back with an update… it's been a crazy week.
We had the MRI done on Tuesday, they confirmed that he has multiple issues with his spine. This is a relief for us as it confirms that his symptoms have a mechanical cause, rather than the terrifying prospect of a systemic storage disorder (no treatment for that). Since the problem was detected on the MRI, no spinal tap was done... we're really glad about that too. I can't imagine how painful and uncomfortable something like that would be, especially for a little dog.
Here's what they found:
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A 'minor' birth defect in one of the vertebrae which is putting pressure on the spinal cord.
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Two swollen discs, one of them right on top of the birth defect, and one of them 2 discs up (swollen, normal, swollen+defect).
We're starting off with what they're calling a 'medical management' strategy: a 2 week course of steroids and 3 weeks of extreme rest to give the steroids the best chance to reduce the pressure on his spinal cord:
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He only gets to leave his crate to go outside and do his business, or if we have him cuddling on the couch. No jumping on or off of anything, no running, no B 500, nada. They even told us to keep his various toys away, any of the ones that he likes to grab and try to shake around, as that would stress his neck.
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They told us to stick with the harness only any time we are walking him with the leash, no more leash attached to the collar (ever again)... this isn't a big deal though... the harness works a lot better anyway.
I'm sure the fellow B owners out there will know how difficult the extreme rest is going to be. We feel terrible having to keep him in the crate (you all know the sad face I'm sure... it's heartbreaking), though we do spend even more time on the couch with him than we had in the past. We just have to be ultra-paranoid to make sure he doesn't jump off... so far so good!
He's also on an antibiotic for the UTI, and a 10 mg dose of Famotidine (generic Pepcid), once per day. The antacid is to try and reduce the stomach discomfort that results from both the steroid and the antibiotic.
He's definitely enjoying his twice-daily peanut butter + pills.
They warned us that the steroids would make him very thirsty and that he would likely have a few accidents. They weren't kidding... there have only been a few accidents, but we have to take him out 5 times as often to pee... he seems to have a never-ending supply of it now.
So far it seems that the antacid is working for his stomach, no diarrhea or vomiting yet.
It's only been 4 days so far for the medications, but it does seem that there is slight improvement when we take him outside walking. He isn't knuckling over on his front paws anymore on the sidewalk and has lessened in the grass as well... so no more bloody scrapes on his little toes (he is such a trooper, we had to tend to his paws very often after even short walks because of the knuckling over).
That's it for now... We're praying that the steroids do the trick and we won't have to even discuss 'plan B', which includes two different back surgeries of varying risk and difficulty. So far it looks like they might be working!
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I am so glad that it looks like you found an answer. I hope you will contact his breeder, so that he/she knows what is going on. Even if it isn't at all genetic, I would want to know if a puppy that I had bred had such a major issue going on. If nothing else, so I could help provide emotional support for my puppy buyers
I hope the steroids and rest fix the problem without sugery. Best of luck keeping him calm during the crate rest. I think there are lots of great ideas on crate entertainment on the internet if you search for such things.
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Glad your seeing some improvement.
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So glad to hear that it is a 'mechanical' issue, and prayers that the rest and steroids help. Poor little guy!
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Glad to hear that you have an answer…. and that the treatment plan works for him.....
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Thanks for letting us know! Fingers crossed and tails curled here hoping everything goes well.
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I'm glad to hear Trent's problems are manageable and treatable. I do have a couple of suggestions to help keep him and you happy:
A Sensation Harness is great for walking - it won't put any pressure on his back or neck
A Molecule Ball or other "work to eat" puzzle for his meals
stuffed Kongs
Any puzzle toy that won't require neck strength to dissect.Keeping a least one or two of his natural drives engaged will help keep him (and you) from going totally bonkers whilst on crate rest. My oldest boy has some disc problems and we used to do warm water massage and swim therapy. It helped greatly.
-Andrea
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Hello again everyone,
My deepest apologies for taking so long to update this thread. Thank you all for the support and the suggestions.
It ended up that, while he responded great to the high-dose steroids, as soon as we backed off on the dose he regressed back again. The neurologist was as disappointed with this as we were.
After some careful consideration, we went with the back surgery. This involved removing the top portion of one of his vertebrae to give the spinal cord some additional room (the swollen discs and birth defect were putting pressure on the spinal cord).
We were not prepared for the sheer SIZE of the incision when we picked him up. It was nearly 6 inches long, going from the top of his head straight down his entire neck. My wife had to leave the room when we first picked him up.
In the 3 months since the surgery (and our last update) he has had what the neurologist calls a "near miraculous" recovery. She said she has never seen a dog go from a procedure like this to running around like an idiot so quickly.
We now have our little boy back. He is doing his B-500's, running and jumping on and off the couches (even though we try to minimize the jumping off).
We hope to have the "easy financing" paid off by february next year (the total cost was brutal, but worth it).
We don't think he'll ever be 100% as far as his legs are concerned… he still will occasionally knuckle over, but he is much quicker to correct it now, and he has gotten a LOT more confident walking on tile floors (good for him, bad for us... he can now do naughty things in the kitchen as well as living room).
Thanks again to everyone for their support and suggestions. He was a real trooper through the entire ordeal.
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That is wonderful to hear…. what a great Christmas present to read of his recovery!
