I said on here once any of you want to meet us 1/2 way at loose dog park with your 6 month old and you turn your puppy loose and we will. Jaycee will run and have a great time. Jaycee does bite us playing and we let her. Jaycee sometime wraps dog leash around our legs and we let her. Jaycee plays and runs and hunts and we let her. But when the day is done Jaycee is safe and has had fun. We have not hurt her and I bet we get as much love from Jaycee if not more then any of you.
There is no reason for you to get defensive. You like your e-collar…great...lots of us have had bad experiences, and/or have done extensive research regarding the effectiveness and fall out of their use. Just a different opinion/experience. Believe me, our dogs are loved, well behaved, get to run, etc...there is no reason for you to think that your dog loves you more than ours do...that is ridiculous and offensive.