Dale
Are you using Vetsulin insulin???? I had problems regulating my 13yo male. Come to find out, the FDA has warned vets to change dogs over to a different kind of insulin. Has something to do with the release time of the crystalline portion of the drug.
We had the WORST time at first giving shots,( and I'm a certified phlebotomist and went thru nursing school) My boy was fine at the vets we they did it…..difference is he was up on the exam table. We got a table for Einstein, put a bath mat on it so he wouldn't slip around. Biggest thing that helped was getting BD needles, the ones that come from the vets are carp-ola, they have burrs etc...the only thing you have to do is change the number of units you use.(if your using Vetsulin U40 compared to U100 for human insulin and BD needles.) I can explain in further detail if you want.
It did take both myself and my husband to get him used to the shots, be we had a very specific routine that we did not alter. Einstein knew that after he ate it was "time for his medicine" he would run over to his table and try to jump up there himself. If we were taking too long, he'd come get us. Freezed Dried Liver was used to get him on the table, then when he was done, given while he was still on the table. I made sure he could see the liver. When he was done and off the table, he got his (small) KONG filled with fat free cream cheese mixed with some tuna mmmmmmmm. My little puppy-cat loved tuna. Anyway, I went from crying during the shot, to smiling and laughing 'cause he was so funny trying to get on the table, and then doing his little dance when he got his kong. I really think the table helped...
Please let me know if I can help any more, I can describe the contraption (sp) I built on top of his metal crate, so I could give the shot by myself when needed.
He didn't seeem to mind getting the shots at all, I think he trusted and knew we would never do anything to hurt him, plus we made a HUGE DEAL out of telling him what a good boy he was....etc......people would have thought we were bananas LOL
Good Luck
PJ
Baron's lump
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I'm very happy he's home allright, give him a hug..
Prayers from holland for the results!
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Glad hes home and alright, goodness that is a big incision but guess she had to do that much.
I LOLd at the make shift collar, poor dude looks PO'd at you
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I was not home all day Wednesday and Baron managed to bend the inside of the neck wrap and pull out 2 staples. I took him to the vet yesterday and since the underlying stitches were still intact he didn't get restapled. I got him one of those cone collars. The poor boy's peripherial vision is gone because of the cone and he keeps getting the collar hung on things or bumping into things on his sides because he can't see them. The wound started draining last night and looks icky. I am not supposed to get the stitches wet plus the area is so tender that I am not going to try to clean it. I have the puppy pen in the kitchen set up for him. He has plenty of space to stretch out and the other dogs can't bump into him. He seems content in there. The staples and stitches are supposed to come out in 7 more days but I don't think I will allow that. I think that this wound is just not going to hold together at that time.
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So…..the sutures worked their way out over the weekend leaving a scary "hole". I took him back to the vet today to get him stitched back up. We knew this was a possibility considering how much skin had to be removed and how tight the remaining skin is after being sutured. We're going to keep him sedated and he will have to stay in a 3' x 3' pen only being allowed out to relieve himself. The sutures will be left in for 14 days. I'm just praying they stay closed this time. I don't know what we will do if the skin will not grow back together.
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OMG, poor little guy and poor you!! :(:(:( I'm so sorry to hear that there are problems with the healing. Hopefully this time the wound will stay closed and heal. Sending healing thoughts Baron's way!
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Robyn, we had a young orang who had a problem like this with an abdominal incision. It took FORever to heal…but it eventually granulated in, but she was left with a large scar. If the inner layers are allowed to heal quickly, hopefully the skin will take care of itself over time.
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I hope poor Baron starts doing better soon. Sending hugs to you and belly scratches to Baron.
Pat
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If the inner layers are allowed to heal quickly, hopefully the skin will take care of itself over time.
It was a different vet who did the second suturing and she something about how abnormal cells deteriorate the inner lining of the skin and that is why the sutures did not hold. Honestly, once I heard "abnormal cells" I didn't quite focus on what else she said. I don't have the biopsy report back yet but this doesn't sound promising.
Baron was not doing well when I got him home yesterday. He was obviously in far more pain this time than the first suturing. He stayed in the puppy pen, never making a fuss, but whenever he tried to stand his legs trembled and once in a while he would yelp. It was heartbreaking seeing him like this. I carried him out to the fenced yard several times to go potty but he refused. I think he was just in too much pain. He was quiet in the pen throughout the night and suprisingly he didn't soil it. I took him for a walk but when he started getting frustrated that he couldn't sniff around I removed the cone collar. This seemed to relax him and he was able to relieve himself completely. He's in the puppy pen now, cone collar on, being quiet. The sedatives are obviously working, thank goodness.
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Robyn, what has he been given for the pain?
Nicky was sent home with a fentanyl patch that lasted for 4 days and he had a prescription of metacam for pain and inflammation. When the fentanyl patch came off he had a day or so where he needed the metacam but the pain dropped off quickly after that. Right now the only issue he is having is with muscle twitching because they had to take some muscle during the surgery but it is improving and hopefully when that fully subsides his seroma will begin to reduce.
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I am surprised too that there was no pain meds? After surgery they had a pain patch same as Lisa notes in her post
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Robyn, what has he been given for the pain?
He's been on Rimadyl since the surgery but the dosage was doubled after the second suturing. He is also taking Tramadol now. He gets both every 12 hours.
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Have you talked with the vet about his symptoms? I know of a few basenjis that have had antagonistic reactions to some pain meds. Meaning instead of helping it makes them jittery and uncomfortable. They may whine, shift positions like they can't get comfortable, seem over sensitive to touch, etc.
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Have you talked with the vet about his symptoms?
If it continues I will but I think his discomfort may be due to having stiches in both his right leg and his left side and just not being able to find a comfortable position. He has a thick pad to lay on but he really preferred the sofa.
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Wow, I really hope everything goes well. Stay positive and give lots of hugs and belly rubs! Sending you well wishes!
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Bless his little heart, he's such a trooper! Keep us posted on his progress and healing. I'm keeping you in my prayers about his results… You are such a wonderful mom!!!
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poor guy. i'm sure he'll be feeling better soon.
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If it continues I will but I think his discomfort may be due to having stiches in both his right leg and his left side and just not being able to find a comfortable position. He has a thick pad to lay on but he really preferred the sofa.
How about trying some memory foam like they sell in Sam's club. There are pillows and bed toppers available.
Jason
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More prayers and hugs going your way.
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Baron has been a very good boy this week, being quiet and calm in the puppy pen, but unfortunately his sutures did not hold. They started splitting last night and by today there was a big, gaping hole (again). So back to the vet we went. Since it is obvious that sutures are of no use we're going to try keeping it clean and covered in hopes that, over time, the skin will grow back together. This process could take weeks if not months.
Baron was still knocked out when I picked him up and I was a bit shocked to find that the vet stapled the bandaging onto his skin! :eek: I take him back Monday to change the bandage. I am unsure if the new bandage will be stapled on or what but it makes me queasy just thinking about it.
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Robyn,
Staples are the best way to keep the bandaging in place in a location where there is motion. The only other way is super glue, but it doesn't work nearly as well where there is hair, so…. I know it seems gross, but keeping it clean and covered is so crucial, because of the infection risk. Believe me, infection would be far grosser than the staples.
Hang in there, girl! Make sure he's getting lots of love and goodies with his sedatives. We will be thinking of you both.
