Basenji Puppies for Sale Ovid, MI

[Schouiffy]

Have your dogs been tested for Fanconi?

[sharronhurlbut]

Where did you get your girl/boy from?

[thegriffswife]

No, they have not been tested for Fanconi.

We got our male from Grand Haven, Michigan. And we got our female from Massilion, Ohio. They are both from 2005 litters.

[mauigirl]

So….Fanconi testing costs about $130 for BOTH PARENTS which will be made up with the sale of one puppy...

Versus producing a litter of puppies at risk for a potentially fatal disease.

[sharronhurlbut]

Oh, please do consider doing this test.
Its really the right thing to do for anyone who buys a puppy from you, as well as having the information on your 2 own dogs…
This knowledge is important for you to have..I hope you will consider doing the testing.

[Andrew]

Even if you're not concerned about the health of the puppies… at least consider this: many states have puppy lemon laws. If your puppies do develop Fanconi & a buyer gets upset, you can be held accountable as there is no reason for you to NOT get the test. This is a potential financial nightmare. Just a thought.

[tanza]

Please be part of the solution. If you have never seen a Basenji with Fanconi it is a horrible affliction and while in many, many cases the treatment works, there is no cure. Please test your Basenjis and save a person buying your pups the heartbreak if they were to develope Fanconi. There is no such thing as "Not in my Line"… unless you test. You can learn about testing at www.basenjihealth.org test is 65.00 per dog and you need to register them on the CPP site (that is free), but all the details are on the website. Help us all to rid our wonderful breed of Fanconi forever.
Also consider other health testing, it really is important to our breed… we have hip problems, elbow problems, eye problems, and thyroid problems that are all genetic.... be part of the solution to raise health, well adjusted Basenjis. Thanks

[phoenix3]

Sorry to change the subject but i was reading this post and had a question when does Fanconi usaully show up ? any age ? or is it when there alittle older ? also is there an age when u pretty much don't need to do the test say for example if ur B is 9yrs or so is it still needed then ? Just thought i would throw a couple questions out there .

[sharronhurlbut]

These are good questions.
Fanconis usually shows up around the age 3 or so.
If it shows up when the dogs are puppies, they often pass away quickly.
this is my understanding, I know I will be corrected if wrong laugh.
Are you breeding your 9 yr old?

[nomrbddgs]

Actually, Fanconi can show up later in life also, we've had some develop it when they were 11, 12 and even older. There is really no set age. Which is why when people say, "well, I have a contract for x number of years," I say, "not enough".

[Quercus]

@thegriffswife:

We are not breeders, we had one litter 2 years ago and we decided to have 1 more before getting our female spayed.

Why don't you consider yourself breeders? Just curious….

[tanza]

@phoenix3:

Sorry to change the subject but i was reading this post and had a question when does Fanconi usaully show up ? any age ? or is it when there alittle older ? also is there an age when u pretty much don't need to do the test say for example if ur B is 9yrs or so is it still needed then ? Just thought i would throw a couple questions out there .

Fanconi usually will appear between the ages of 3 and 10, however there are cases of earlier then 3 and older then 10.

[thegriffswife]

I guess we don't consider ourselves breeders because when I think of a breeder I think of a business and waiting lists and such. I don't think of myself as a breeder because this is only the 2nd time our girl has had a litter and we are planning to get her spayed next year. The 1st time she got pregnant was kind of a accident, we knew we wanted to have puppies some day with her but we didn't want them then. We kept the two away from eachother but we were also in the middle of buying and moving into a house. We had a lot of fun with the puppies so we decided to have one more litter. I didn't mean of offend anyone because there is nothing wrong with being a breeder, I think I would like it if I were more serious about it. We only had puppies because we love our breed and want to share them that's all.

[sharronhurlbut]

I can tell you love your basenjis from your last post.
But now days, you need to do more…
Please, get the fanconis test done before you sell any of the puppies.
It will keep you informed as to the health of the dogs you have, and the pups you have.
We all love b's here.
I do rescue, and I don't breed...but we do have many breeders here and we all want the very best dogs on this earth...
I hope to hear you have decided to have the testing done.
We will all be waiting to find out what you decide.

[BasenjiDiva]

I think Sharron said it very nicely. And since you do love the breed, I would add another suggestion - have the people who buy your puppies sign a spay or neuter contract. I presume you don't want one of your pups to end up in a puppy mill or owned by a byb. Getting your dogs and puppies tested and requiring that the puppies be spayed or neutered would be some of the kindest things you could do for your puppies. Also, you might ask some of the breeders on this board how they screen their perspective buyers to ensure that they end up in basenji savvy homes.

Pat

[sharronhurlbut]

Pat, excellent suggestion..blush I can't believe I didn't suggest it, as rescue is my "thing"…laugh.
But thank you.
I am sure thegriffswife can get help from the breeders re suggestions on getting these pups fixes in writing...

Thank you again for this post.

[Quercus]

@thegriffswife:

I guess we don't consider ourselves breeders because when I think of a breeder I think of a business and waiting lists and such. I don't think of myself as a breeder because this is only the 2nd time our girl has had a litter and we are planning to get her spayed next year. The 1st time she got pregnant was kind of a accident, we knew we wanted to have puppies some day with her but we didn't want them then. We kept the two away from eachother but we were also in the middle of buying and moving into a house. We had a lot of fun with the puppies so we decided to have one more litter. I didn't mean of offend anyone because there is nothing wrong with being a breeder, I think I would like it if I were more serious about it. We only had puppies because we love our breed and want to share them that's all.

IMO anyone who chooses to breed their dogs is a breeder. Some are responsible breeders, some aren't. When you make the choice to bring life into the world you are obligated to do the very best you can for those babies. I hope you will make sure your puppy buyers are responsible too.

[tanza]

@Quercus:

IMO anyone who chooses to breed their dogs is a breeder. Some are responsible breeders, some aren't. When you make the choice to bring life into the world you are obligated to do the very best you can for those babies. I hope you will make sure your puppy buyers are responsible too.

Well said… and add to that ... any pups that you bring into the world you are responsible for their entire lives... good, bad, whatever..... regardless of why someone wants/needs to give up their Basenji, the breeder is responsible to take that pup... no questions asked... and that is usually in the contracts... and should be... (along with spay/neuter).

And to just comment on the "comment" about waiting lists.. that is how responsible breeders decide to breed, they have a list of homes before the breeding is done... not after... and if for some reason the planned litter doesn't work out.. responsible breeders will offer assistance to find another responsible breeder that would have a pup to place... or give the people the option to stay on the top of their reservation list for the next breeding.

[phoenix3]

Thanks for the answers

[khanis]

@thegriffswife:

We are not breeders, we had one litter 2 years ago and we decided to have 1 more before getting our female spayed.

If you breed a litter, and this isn't the only one you've bred,
then you are, by definition, breeders.

Test your dogs, spare your puppy buyers the horror of possibly living with a Fanconi Affected basenji.

Been There. Done That.

AM NEVER DOING THAT AGAIN.
Thank god and allah that there is a test that allows us to breed away from this dreaded disease.