We are getting him from a guy in Colorado (Phil Jones). We have already paid for him and we are already in love with our little pup and I KNOW that I'll probably catch grief for getting him from a BYB, (although, what's done is done), but I hope you guys will still welcome us to the forum
Welcome to Basenji Forums and we can't wait to hear all about your adventure. Please post pictures of your new pup. We here at Basenji Forums love puppies!!!!
Of course you are welcome to the forum. Please do not feel discouraged by purchasing your puppy from a BYB. You should NOT be receiving any negativity from any person on this forum. We discourage against that. This is a forum in which everyone can come together and share their love for the breed.
Again…welcome and congrats on your future fur-baby...How Exciting!!!! 
Lastly...Dr. Fitzgerald is amazing. I used to take my pets there when I lived in Colorado a few years back. I have to agree with you...Colorado hands down is an amazing place..I miss it so much! Dr. Fitzgerald is great and he knows his stuff! I only wish he was in CA. He is a good choice and I think you will be happy.
hey, i got my puppy from phil too….mines a red and white male...i wonder if yours is his brother? i know that breeder catches a lot of crap because he doesn't test for fanconi, but he's had them for 3 generations and the gramps and grams are old....i know thats not an excuse and i'm going to have my puppy tested, but at least he really loves his dogs and was very knowlegable and helpful. some of the backyard breeders i talked to while i was looking for a puppy disgusted me...didn't know anything about the breed except the don't shed or bark, and only saw them when they were fed.
It is not only that a breeder doesn't test for Fanconi, but that they don't test for anything. And that is great that the "gramps and grams" are old, but that doesn't mean that they are not carriers for Fanconi and been passing the gene in all the litters coming down from them, there have been a number of responsible breeders that "thought" they had clean lines, never had a Fanconi dog and have been in the breed for 20 to 30+ years. When they started testing, 99% of all their breeding dogs were Carriers and now some of the younger stock is testing as Affected. It was only by the luck of the genes that they didn't have Affecteds before that. By not testing when there is a test available all puppies are put at risk as are their owners and they are set up for heartache. There are other important test, as we have other health concerns, that should be done, hips for one, eyes for another. Again anyone can say "my" dogs are healthly for if you don't test you done know. Hip Dysplasia is a problem in our breed, a small one now, but that is because people test their dogs and keep track of offspring. PRA is a problem (Blindness) and is late onset like Fanconi.. and unless breeding dogs and their offspring are tested, you don't know that you are passing that gene. There are Thyroid problems plus others. And responsible breeders tell potential buyers about all the problems in the breed, have the health testing to show why they have bred "X" to "Y".
And in the big scheme there are all kinds of breeders, from the very worst that sell to pet stores to the responsible breeders that do the health testing, temperament test, and breed for conformation correct Basenjis and those inbetween. There is no excuse for not being a responsible breeder and testing dogs "before" breeding other then money. And if you don't have the money to test, then you should not be breeding.
Good point, I still spend more on toys and fancy food/additives than I do on all my vet visits/tests.
If you look on the pedigree search, you can find all sorts of siblings and free pedigrees.
Good point, I still spend more on toys and fancy food/additives than I do on all my vet visits/tests.
If you look on the pedigree search, you can find all sorts of siblings and free pedigrees.
Not sure what you mean by your post? Siblings yes, pedigrees yes, health testing, no… health testing doesn't (with the exception of Fanconi) doesn't show up on Sally W's pedigree site.
And really health testing is important. Eye tests by a board Certified Vet is extremely important and everyone should have their dogs done. And not that expensive (all of mine have been under $50.00). All young dogs should be done for at least a base line and if nothing shows up then every two years at least.
oh, just responding to the comment that she thought her dog was medjais sibling. And that testing is good and isn't a large cost in owning a healthy dog.
But the point is that anyone who is selling dogs has no excuse to breed a litter without doing the health testing first. The only reason not to test is because it cuts into the bottom line, profit. Yearly vet check ups will not show the condition of a dog's hip joints, whether they have auto anti-bodies for their own thyroid tissue, or even if a dog is slowly losing its vision to an inherited progressive degenerative disease.
But the point is that anyone who is selling dogs has no excuse to breed a litter without doing the health testing first. The only reason not to test is because it cuts into the bottom line, profit. Yearly vet check ups will not show the condition of a dog's hip joints, whether they have auto anti-bodies for their own thyroid tissue, or even if a dog is slowly losing its vision to an inherited progressive degenerative disease.
Well put lvoss…. responsible breeders work so very hard to breed good, well socialized, healthly dogs... are we always right... heck NO.. but at least responsible breeders have not spared the expense of trying.. and know bloodlines, researching pedigrees, looking at siblings, weighing what is most important and what we might or might not accept. No breeder is perfect but the ones that can tell you about the pups, their parents, their grandparents and their siblings have put the time and effort into their breeding program which is to improve and to preserve the breed. Responsible breeders do not make money, nor to they expect to... they hope to at least break even and are darn lucky if that happens... and responsible breeders will usually only breed when, 1. They want a pup to add to their breeding program and 2. Only when they have prior reservations for pups.
It is for the dogs and about the dogs... never for money
Hey I got my basenji from Phil to, about a week ago. I wish I could have (or would have) done a little research on him first, I didn't think I would find anything. Does he have a good rep?
Sorry, but this guy is a byb.
Are his Bs AKC registered and does he use/have a kennel name? There was someone in CO who was selling pups a few years ago on puppyfind.com and either the sire and/or dam was related to my Arnie, a rescue, who came from a commercial breeder. The pups were not AKC registered.
His Bs are all AKC registered, he doesn't use a kennel name. He does sell them on puppyfind, and as I'm finding out doesn't separate the pups to determine exact parentage for the AKC. Some of his dogs have been tested for Fanconi, and we are working out kinks with that as well.
But I must say that he does socialize the pups and Medjai was also house trained when I got him, used to the car, and didn't mind the crate.
I am very supportive of of you Michael and all the right things you have done with Medjai….
Yes, you have really worked hard to do right by Medjai. He is lucky to have an owner willing to work so hard to stay up to date and in touch with the basenji community to provide the best for him.
