2Bs vs 1B - How Much Different w/Multiples


  • @renaultf1:

    The breeder is Eldorado…the dog is Eldorado's Black Gold of Wilmer.
    I met him when I originally visited there and then subsequently picked up Ruby. Neat dog, he was a quite a bit more aloof w/me than Ruby was...definitely not as outgoing. 😃

    Good info about the snarking over attention...is that something that can be fixed w/training or is that something you just sort of have to live with?

    I figured the walking might be a challenge...I'd say 90% of the time Ruby is very good on the leash. When there is another dog or a rabbit (that happened last week) that is a whole different story.

    Black Gold of Wilmer is Willy's father.:D


  • @Basenji_Boy:

    Black Gold of Wilmer is Willy's father.:D

    Too cool…it is such a small world. Does Willy have a spot on his head like Coal does? Coal has a black spot in his white stripe on the top of his head. 😃


  • @renaultf1:

    Too cool…it is such a small world. Does Willy have a spot on his head like Coal does? Coal has a black spot in his white stripe on the top of his head. 😃

    I've never seen BG of W in person.


  • We have three dogs; two of which are B's.

    There is a lot of snarking between the two B's,which bugs my dh but not me. It alarmed me at first until I realized that it's really just a bunch of noise. They are loud, but no one ever gets hurt. Most of the time, depending on what they are fussing over – often it's the best spot on the big pillow --I just ignore it and let them work it out.

    I used to try to stop Jazz from getting snarky at Keoki when she was on my lap and he'd come into the room, but now I let it go. For them, it has become yet another game. Here's how it is played:

    Jazzy is sleeping on my lap. Keoki walks into the room; Jazzy growls. The growling gets louder and meaner sounding as he comes closer. He jumps down into puppy-play position,then bounces back up and hops away, returning quickly to repeat. Jazzy leaps from my lap to charge him; Keoki dashes down the hall w/Jazz in hot pursuit. The Basenji 500 has begun and they will usually play for at least ten minutes and both forget about the lap.

    When Gypsy {non-B and old} comes into the room and Jazzy growls, I can usually turn her face away and tell her to "be nice". For those two,that does the trick pretty well because Gypsy just ignores her and goes about her business --- she's too big to get on my lap anyway, and Jazzy knows that Gypsy is no competition for "the spot".


  • I crate Tayda and Lenny together and they are fine. Some snarking sometimes, but overall they are fine. I got them a big crate so they'd have some room to move around and they just lay on top of each other anyway…


  • I used to crate Jazz and Keoki together w/no problem.

    I stopped when Jazz was spayed and needed some peaceful rest, and just never put Keoki back in {because he HAD been doing so well alone…...}


  • ours do great together and yes they fight but never drawing blood. they keep each other company & play a lot together.

    Two actually makers it easier in my opinion, they keep each other busy.

    walking two can be a trick, but I find they both are on the same frequecncy so usually go the same way.

    I saw someone near me jogging with three on one leash!


  • Personally, I will always have at least two Basenji's.

    We've had two in a crate together, but never when we are not around to supervise.


  • @Basenji_Boy:

    Personally, I will always have at least two Basenji's.

    We've had two in a crate together, but never when we are not around to supervise.

    Ditto, I have crated two together in a car, or at a show, or coursing, but never when someone wasn't there to keep an eye on them.

    I know of quite a few people who do very successfully, though.


  • We stack ours- she just jumps in the top, although a couple of times she jumped up with the crate door shut.

    She even will close the other crate door if it's in the way before she leaps.


  • @renaultf1:

    Thanks for that…as you can tell I'm new to training methods :D, but Ruby has responded really well to positive training, and consequently have never wanted to pull out a spray bottle on her (been a little leary of that). I could see myself trying your first method if the problem arose.

    I'm in the same situation as you–live alone and single parent of two Bs. I had one B and one german shepherd mix for many years, and I feel that most Bs need companionship--either their person or another dog. When I adopted Tyler and Zoey--whom the rescuers said could not be separated because they were so close and had always been together--they told me they never snarked at each other. Well.....that was in the shelter situation. After they got comfortable at my house, Tyler (the dad) started growling at Zoey (he's 6; she's 4) at times. It really startled me at first, and I didn't know what to do. Advice here on the board about leaving them when that happens worked--but the rescuer advised me to let them work it out--and she thought Tyler was disciplining Zoey when he didn't think her behavior was approriate. So I felt like if I tried to get Tyler to not growl--that he would resent that and maybe things would escalate. What I did find was that if I picked up Zoey or comforted her, then she would turn on Tyler like a Tazmanian Devil. So I immediately ceased doing that. Zoey seems to have learned what irritates Tyler (usually--it seems kind of a pecking order thing) and has modified her behavior a bit. And Tyler isn't as "stern" now when he growls at her--which isn't very frequent now. Sometimes he'll growl at her and then take her head gently in his mouth, and they play a little bit. I would highly recommend two over one.
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  • we stay out of it. They work it between themselves. our male has grabbed our female by the neck and thrown her into the book case!

    They never really hurt each other, It sounds nasty but, it seems it is more vocalization & acting out than real aggression.

    our female now realizes that he's not really going to hurt her so she will come up and just irritate him by pawing at him continually as he growls at her. She just keeps poking him!

    The male on the other hand, if the female growls at him, he will just sit right on top of her, ignoring it.

    wish I had my camera then.


  • If you get another basenji I would suggest a seperate crate next to your b…a seperate food dish, I found food a BIG issue so I always put my boys food bowl down on the left, and the girls dish on the right...always,....now, they will "switch" places, when one is on the "wrong" side...and no one feel that they can "take" the other dogs food.
    I am hopeful that you find a companion you like and your dog likes.


  • we only feed ours in there crates or else someone would eat EVERYONES DINNER! the one who never chews her food, the female vacuum cleaner.


  • Thank you all for your advice and help. Really good information here. I emailed Eldorado and told them I wanted Coal…yay, Ruby's getting a friend. 😃 Haven't heard back yet, but "Lord willin' and the creek don't rise..." I'll have 2 bs (one red/white & one black/white) within the next couple of weeks.

    I'll definitely be keeping them in 2 separate crates and separate food dishes thanks to everything I've read here. 😃


  • @renaultf1:

    Thank you. One more question, they sleep together & play together when you are gone, does that mean you put them in the same crate? I was wondering if that would work…

    I use gigantic crates and often put two dogs in one. Three works but they get real unhappy and testy. I have also crated the cat with Chip (when the others are gone) because otherwise he gets lonely and even in a crate he can cause a he** of a lot of trouble. Plus I dont want him to be lonely. The cat is pretty mellow - if the dogs dont chase him he is cool. (Pretested with Angel at the shelter)

    Also, I was going to keep everything separate but decided not to. All food, water, toys, chewies are abundant and crate doors are left open when I am home. Dogs walk in and out of whatever crate they want. If it is crating time and two are in the same crate, I leave them together. They never know which crate they are going to end up in. The key is to have abundance for everyone so there is no competition over goodies. Even when I brought a new African home, he fell right into that pattern, tho he is still pretty anxious. The other African doesnt have a problem with the new boy wandering in and out of crates or taking a chewie that he just had, cause of the way he was raised. Of course, they are all on the same diet - otherwise I would likely do feedings when everyone is crated and leave the crates shut or the food out of reach otherwise - but I would still alternate crates and crate arrangements and enforce (abundant) communal toys and chewies.

    Marie


  • @rmholt:

    I use gigantic crates and often put two dogs in one. Three works but they get real unhappy and testy. I have also crated the cat with Chip (when the others are gone) because otherwise he gets lonely and even in a crate he can cause a he** of a lot of trouble. Plus I dont want him to be lonely. The cat is pretty mellow - if the dogs dont chase him he is cool. (Pretested with Angel at the shelter)

    Also, I was going to keep everything separate but decided not to. All food, water, toys, chewies are abundant and crate doors are left open when I am home. Dogs walk in and out of whatever crate they want. If it is crating time and two are in the same crate, I leave them together. They never know which crate they are going to end up in. The key is to have abundance for everyone so there is no competition over goodies. Even when I brought a new African home, he fell right into that pattern, tho he is still pretty anxious. The other African doesnt have a problem with the new boy wandering in and out of crates or taking a chewie that he just had, cause of the way he was raised. Of course, they are all on the same diet - otherwise I would likely do feedings when everyone is crated and leave the crates shut or the food out of reach otherwise - but I would still alternate crates and crate arrangements and enforce (abundant) communal toys and chewies.

    Marie

    What are your african's registered names?


  • Darn, now I want a new B, my Sahara is Queen of the house, I believe she is alpha. Should I look for another female,or male pup? Anyone know of breeders in NC? Basenji B, do you like the same sex together when there is 2, or opposite sex?


  • The general rule of thumb is that its a male/female pairing to have the best results.
    If not, then male/male.
    Female to female is not recommended, tho there are some who do it successfully.
    As with people, dogs like some and not the other..so introducations can make all the difference with this going well.


  • General rule is male/female… as the best pairings... and that is the normal recommendation give. 90% of the time holds true

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