AS DonC says,"the question of whether they WANT to...". I had one that after about a mile would lay down on his side and refuse to move. More than once did I have to carry that pain the butt Basenji, on my shoulders native style, home.
Basenji rarely responds to vocal commands.
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Maybe I've been lucky (or unlucky, depends on how you view it) but all of my Basenjis have been quite keen on anything edible and of course on many things that aren't. Never had one turn their nose up at dog food, although they have all agreed people food is better!
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Maybe I've been lucky (or unlucky, depends on how you view it) but all of my Basenjis have been quite keen on anything edible and of course on many things that aren't. Never had one turn their nose up at dog food, although they have all agreed people food is better!
Oh, that's very fortunate. Zest! the superstar in training will do anything for any sort of food. And it does make training sooooo much easier. We've been known to put a little bacon grease on the dogs' kibble on the weekend on occasion. Digital would roll the kibble around in his mouth, then spit it out when he'd gotten all the grease off. Now on the weekends he won't touch his kibble until we put scrambled eggs on it. He's 15, so we happily humor him. (He's my dog and I'll spoil him if I want to!)
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He's 15, so we happily humor him. (He's my dog and I'll spoil him if I want to!)
I am a firm believer in giving the old ones whatever their heart desires, as long as it isn't too bad for them! At the moment I have a relatively young Basenji…....Perry is 8......but my oldest was high side of 16, and we humoured her a lot. I do find the appetite starts to go as age creeps up and teeth deteriorate. I am also dealing with old horses at the moment. One will be 35 in April, another turns 30 this year. They mostly get whatever they want!
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How do you know when your Basenji goes deaf? When he ignores the sound of kibble being dropped in his dish!
Mine would be…When they ignore the sound of refrigerator door opening...lol.
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When Spencer ignores, "Wanna go for a walk?!!!," "Wanna go for a ride?!!!" or "Wanna treat?!!!," something is wrong.
Some people say it's the excited, high-pitched voice. So I tried, "Wanna pill?!!!" You can probably imagine the look of total disdain I got.
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Basenjis = selective hearing.
Kipawa can be off leash in very safe areas like dike trails, but his recall isn't stellar. I would call it 'okay'. I try not to give the 'come' command more than 3 times, because if it isn't working by then, you need to go back to the drawing board. I am blessed by the fact that for some reason, even if Kipawa is playing with a dog 50 yards away, he always looks to see if I am still there. If he sees that I have turned my back and am walking in the opposite direction, he comes running to me. I totally agree that when teaching recall, your basenji needs to know that coming back to you does not mean the end of play or good things. So practice calling, treating and loving for something well done (returning) ad then releasing him/her to be allowed to go back to the fun activity.
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I trained 5 years ago to come to a sports whistle, in the house, with 'very good' treats. Did that for 2 days and on the third tried them outside and they responded the first time. Within a half hour they knew how far they had to go to make me blow the whistle so they could run back to me and get a goodie! Who trained who? Took 20 minutes to train 5 basenjis, and 30 minutes for them to train me.
As for how to know when they are actually deaf? Don't hear the fridge opening or the treat bag rustling!
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So practice calling, treating and loving for something well done (returning) ad then releasing him/her to be allowed to go back to the fun activity.
I had been doing this. Now, when I CAN get her to come, she runs back in my direction, but just keeps running right past me, lol…
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Then she doesn't get the treat unless she stops and is within reach. Now that she knows checking in is something that pays, raise the criteria for payment just make sure that once she has stopped on gotten the treat she is released back to play more often than not so coming when called is not a predictor for the fun to stop.
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_I was wondering if anyone here has experience with any training techniques or games they have had luck with in the past with training a Basenji to listen more often. I'm currently trying to tackle her chewing habits, 'come' command, 'leave it' command (on leash), as well as many other basic behavioral disciplines, so its getting frustrating when I try to let her have fun and run in an open field (she is SO fast!) and she just begins ignoring me.
Also, IDK if its relevant, but many times when I have her outside off-leash, she has ZERO interest in treats of any type, even chicken!_
I wanted to pretend that I was smarter than the B, so when I call and he does not come, I start yelling " oh boy, look at this, let's go THIS WAY!!!!" It does work while on a walk so it does not really sound like I called a recall…..
Then, the sound of a whistle means High Value Reward-so make sure that when you associate the sound of the whistle for a recall make it a good treat(cooked hamburger or chix or whatever....) So if Uzie is outside, out of the fence, and not in my sight, even an acre away.... or his interest is minor ( not if he is playing with the neighbor's dog.....) He comes running full speed forward to me, (it may even take 5minutes) and so it works, it was quickly learned too! I reinforce it while on a walk on a trail that I do not have to worry about him running off into traffic, if he goes ahead of me and Hershey and Candi (his pack mates), I blow the whistle, and he tears down the trail and gets a kibble. This is just my two cents.....try it..!
PS: all the above are great inputs as well!
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I want to add to Ivoss' excellent advice that it is good to insist on contact…..preferably holding on to her collar.....before giving the treat and releasing the dog. You don't need a dog that learns to pull away once the treat is received. I would make this momentary initially, working up to a collar hold, perhaps attaching a leash, then treating and releasing. I would also work on teaching her that there is another treat available if she waits a moment after the release. This tactic works well with horses as well as dogs, and I practice it religiously to have well mannered animals that don't yank your arm off anticipating freedom.
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I have to admit, when I read the title of this thread, my first thought was , "Yeah, and your point is???"<giggle>
Seriously, you've gotten some excellent advice, keep us updated on what works for you!
Terry</giggle>
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I would make this momentary initially, working up to a collar hold, perhaps attaching a leash, then treating and releasing. I would also work on teaching her that there is another treat available if she waits a moment after the release.
Wonderful advice! That seems like it would work incredibly! Thank you so much!
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Hello,
We have 2 B's, sisters. Binti, the 2-year old, will usually come when called. Lela, 1, hears, understands, and then makes her own choice.
They will definitely NOT come when chasing birds and rabbits off leash (in a secure place) - I wait it out (10-30 minutes) and ultimately they will come out of the bushes and towards me.
We have developed a command to call them over when they are on the verge of becoming distracted. We carry bits of a treat called Rodi (which they love), and when we want to call them before they dig into something, we call RRRRRRRODI! Timing is essential - a millisecond too late and their brains are out of touch. When the timing is good, they usually respond. When one comes running, the other doesn't want to stay behind. It works better than the regular commands (Come, Here, etcetera) -
Are you for real
You expect a basenji to come when they are in the woods chasing rabbits and birds !!!
This is what basenjis do.
I would never let my B's off leash in the woods and if in the yard
I would never expect them to NOT chase game.
I want my basenjis to be prey driven.Kathryn
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Dear Kathryn,
Yes, I am for real.
No, I do not expect my B's to come AT ALL TIMES when they are off leash in a secure place.
And, miracle, they often DO COME when called.
And no, they don't run away.
And yes, after a while, they will always come out the bushes in the spot where they entered, and the first thing they do is look for me, and come to me, even if not called.
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Some will come back and some won't. Some lines are more focused on prey than on you. It sounds like you have one whom is more focused on prey than on you. Jeff will probably be able to give you some pointers as I know he hunts with his and has had huge success. While I would trust one of my lines, the other is far to prey driven to be trustful. Hopefully Jeff will be looking and can help you. I can't remember his post name, though, sorry!
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Hello Arlene,
Yes, although they are sisters, they have very different personalities - which makes it all the more fun and rewarding! All in all we're pretty satisfied with their behaviour but of course we're open to pointers.
Is his name Jeff Schettler from http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/BNTPP/ ?
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Yes, that's him! And yes, even though they are sisters, sometimes personalities can be very different. I haven't read back through the thread, but have you tried clicker training with them? Just curious.
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Hi,
Thanks.
We got Lela as a pup and she responded well to regular class - not the top of course but not the worst either!
Binti we got when she was almost 2 - she was raised in a pretty intense B-pack, without any formal classes, she is more relaxed now and playful - glad you mentioned clicker training because I was already thinking about it, but there are precious few B's in Holland, so info is scarce.
This is them: http://tiny.cc/yq3ebw and http://tiny.cc/qr3ebw
KJ
