@DebraDownSouth we've tried doggie ramps she is just too stubborn. Physically she is in great shape the vet said he would mistake her for a 7yr old. So it's just the behaviors and now what we believe is confusion.

I know they have found lower dosages work better for people, but not find much solid research on dosing for dogs for each disorder so I'd start low. However, I am impressed with the amt of vets endorsing it and studies. http://www.dogcancerblog.com/blog/more-melatonin-and-dog-cancer/ leading to this published on help with cancer survival: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10674014 Dr Dodman is a rock star: http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/issues/3_5/features/Supplements-For-Anxious-Dogs_5095-1.html https://cvm.ncsu.edu/new-research-study-focuses-on-mysterious-eye-disease-in-dogs/ https://www.vetinfo.com/melatonin-supplements-for-dogs.html http://vcs.vetmed.wsu.edu/research/clinical-studies/melatonin

@Crla Gosh I usually give links but I found it several places. The quote above from here: http://www.theinternetpetvet.com/apoquel-alert-serious-side-effects-of-new-dog-allergy-medication/ Another site: http://www.drugs.com/vet/apoquel.html In the 283 dogs that received APOQUEL, the following additional clinical signs were reported after beginning APOQUEL (percentage of dogs with at least one report of the clinical sign as a non-pre-existing finding): pyoderma (12.0%), non-specified dermal lumps (12.0%), otitis (9.9%), vomiting (9.2%), diarrhea (6.0%), histiocytoma (3.9%), cystitis (3.5%), anorexia (3.2%), lethargy (2.8%), yeast skin infections (2.5%), pododermatitis (2.5%), lipoma (2.1%), polydipsia (1.4%), lymphadenopathy (1.1%), nausea (1.1%), increased appetite (1.1%), aggression (1.1%), and weight loss (0.7)...... After completing APOQUEL field studies, 239 dogs enrolled in an unmasked (no placebo control), continuation therapy study receiving APOQUEL for an unrestricted period of time. Mean time on this study was 372 days (range 1 to 610 days). Of these 239 dogs, one dog developed demodicosis following 273 days of APOQUEL administration. One dog developed dermal pigmented viral plaques following 266 days of APOQUEL administration. One dog developed a moderately severe bronchopneumonia after 272 days of APOQUEL administration; this infection resolved with antimicrobial treatment and temporary discontinuation of APOQUEL. One dog was euthanized after developing abdominal ascites and pleural effusion of unknown etiology after 450 days of APOQUEL administration. Six dogs were euthanized because of suspected malignant neoplasms: including thoracic metastatic, abdominal metastatic, splenic, frontal sinus, and intracranial neoplasms, and transitional cell carcinoma after 17, 120, 175, 49, 141, and 286 days of APOQUEL administration, respectively. Two dogs each developed a Grade II mast cell tumor after 52 and 91 days of APOQUEL administration, respectively. One dog developed low grade B-cell lymphoma after 392 days of APOQUEL administration. Two dogs each developed an apocrine gland adenocarcinoma (one dermal, one anal sac) after approximately 210 and 320 days of APOQUEL administration, respectively. One dog developed a low grade oral spindle cell sarcoma after 320 days of APOQUEL administration. To report suspected adverse events, for technical assistance or to obtain a copy of the MSDS, contact Zoetis Inc. at 1-888-963-8471 or www.zoetis.com.<< Finally: What are the side effects: Apoquel may increase susceptibility to infection, including demodicosis. It may also exacerbate neoplastic conditions. Adverse reactions reported in a masked field study included diarrhea, vomiting, anorexia, new cutaneous or subcutaneous lumps, and lethargy. In most cases, diarrhea, vomiting, anorexia, and lethargy spontaneously resolved with continued dosing.<< http://www.1800petmeds.com/Apoquel-prod11700.html

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My Teddy had/has what I would call a rash as well. My vet said it is an allergy (he does occasionally lick his paws also) - at first he thought it was a food allergy but it would go away when the spring rains came. It appears to be related to molds and dust mites instead. I give him salmon oil (not the pills but the real oil), freeze his kibble, regularly clean his blankets etc., and give him oatmeal shampoo baths when it really acts up. I also use dermacton cream if his skin gets too dry. We seem to have it under control.

Joanne, I had a basenji with CUPS. Autoimmune disorder, and much in the line, so sure as heck genetic. http://www.wellpets.com/vet-dentistry-ulcerative-stomatiti/

@Sunh0ney did they do a full/complete thyroid panel?

I'll check it out, thanks!

you can put some essential oils on him when you go out for a walk - there are some brands with special anti-tick-mosquito mixes available.

@2baroos said in Lipoma removal surgery: Max is going to be 15 and I wont be putting him through surgery. The SX up here will be close to $1000.00 Wow 15... totally understand.

Really glad it is something fixable. Sometimes dogs with heart failure or cancer do that, but as he had this before, sounded like recurrence. I would ask why the different drugs... if bacterial, he needs antibiotics to clear it up. Steroids can help with allergic reaction/inflammation, but won't do squat for infection. Are they suggesting one and then the other if first doesn't work? Good luck!

did not see this until now, no update on condition, but I would get a new vet, Id go to an emergency vet place, poos little guy is probably dehydrated, which can cause organ damage, and probably has kennel cough or something similar, I fear for the worse if no action is taken immediately.

Cosette does the throwing-up-bile thing on occasion, and in her case, it always seems tied to overexcitement. We've been working with her to get her used to cohabitation with our cat, and she's puked up bile in at least two instances when we picked the cat up or the cat ran across the floor, and we had to calm the dog down and take her attention away from chasing. Just another data point for you that may be helpful!

No, I have not talked to the breeder. That is a good suggestion and I will do that right away. Thanks

Also @ Kebasmom: unfortunately what you describe sounds very similar to our little pup. I'm so sorry for your loss and appreciate you sharing. I want to be realistic about what is happening, and I can see the road ahead of us. Still, you never know... Thanks

@Abaihya think you need a new Vet, no way should the Thyroid blood test be that price.... They draw the blood and it is sent out....

Thank you for your help. I took her to the vet. They prescribed eye drops to see if it would help. They stained her eye. No scatches. They eye is slightly recessed. I will try the massage as you suggest. I really don't want her to have surgery. But I don't want her to be in pain either. Hoping the massage helps. Thank you.

Our Buana has the same thing, since he is a puppie. Every winter his ears get dry, and loose hair. For Buana there is no medical issue behind it but it looks like the dry air of winter gives the edges of the ears a hard time. We have tried all kind of things but nothing helps, we stopped finding what to do and let it, and in spring the ears get the hairs back.. But with Buana it does not itch.. You can try almond oil, but you have to start before they ears loose the hairs...

If both front and back, could be her spin. I'd have the doctor check her. I have had good results using bromelain (it is from pineapples and a natural anti-inflammatory). You can get it off amazon or some health food stores.

How is their weight? If they are eating a lot and fat, you may need to put on lower calorie food (the green beans/pumpkin is good). If thin, may need to check their thyroid. At their ages, it can cause problems. Please get a full panel run.