The more data that is in the data base, the better people can use the that information as this is a Linkage test only… and errors can be made either human or test....
Tayda's test strip
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The last time she was strip tested was probably a year ago when Kelli was dog sitting them…. and she was clear then... I know... I know, I should have kept up with it. I also have been MEANING to order the test kit to send her sample to be DNA tested, and just hadn't done it yet. I know... awful.
I'm really regretting it now. She had two "accidents" in the house last week(which she never does), and that is what prompted me to go get a bottle of the strips...I looked on the zandebasenjis site and saw that Tayda has 3 littermates, 2 of which have been tested as carriers. Her parents weren't tested...
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The last time she was strip tested was probably a year ago when Kelli was dog sitting them…. and she was clear then... I know... I know, I should have kept up with it. I also have been MEANING to order the test kit to send her sample to be DNA tested, and just hadn't done it yet. I know... awful.
I'm really regretting it now. She had two "accidents" in the house last week(which she never does), and that is what prompted me to go get a bottle of the strips...I looked on the zandebasenjis site and saw that Tayda has 3 littermates, 2 of which have been tested as carriers. Her parents weren't tested...
Yes, I saw that too about her sire and dam, but then again, if he is not using them for breeding, not surprising that they are not tested considering their age… but seeing that she has two littermates that are carriers and knowing the pedigree, not really a total shock that she would be a carrier or affected.
And regardless now you know that something is going on and can get the bloodwork/blood gases done and get her on the protocol... fingers crossed that she does well on the protocol
You know, I am also really surprised that Kelli has not tested Cleo.
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I am so sorry that you have this test strip changing color.
But with the new protocal, you can have a long lived b.
Hugs and hugs.
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Our thoughts are with you. We'll pray you can get to a vet that can do the proper tests & help you.
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I have an appointment at noon today to get Tayda in for tests. I called back the place that originally said that they couldn't take the blood and talked to someone else, and apparently, it is not a problem and I should be able to walk out with the results I need. I'll be back with news!
meanwhile, I heard from the breeder who has Tayda's mother… it seems that she (the mother) has been affected and on the protocol for 5 years and is doing well. While its good to hear she's doing well, its NOT good to hear that she was affected and on the protocol BEFORE I got Tayda and her breeder never mentioned it to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know I'm still an idiot for not strip testing myself until now, but I really think he should have told me! I remember asking him about Fanconi when we were first discussing my getting a dog from him and he assured me his lines were clear. Of course, I didn't know enough back then to question it more or look into it myself. ACK!:mad:
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I have an appointment at noon today to get Tayda in for tests. I called back the place that originally said that they couldn't take the blood and talked to someone else, and apparently, it is not a problem and I should be able to walk out with the results I need. I'll be back with news!
meanwhile, I heard from the breeder who has Tayda's mother… it seems that she (the mother) has been affected and on the protocol for 5 years and is doing well. While its good to hear she's doing well, its NOT good to hear that she was affected and on the protocol BEFORE I got Tayda and her breeder never mentioned it to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know I'm still an idiot for not strip testing myself until now, but I really think he should have told me! I remember asking him about Fanconi when we were first discussing my getting a dog from him and he assured me his lines were clear. Of course, I didn't know enough back then to question it more or look into it myself. ACK!:mad:
While we didn't have the test back then (when you got Tayda) so other then what the breeder tells you, there is/was nothing you could do to check, I agree that was uncalled for him not tell you the dam was spilling and certainly should have. I remember my first litter, Maggii's Dam started spilling 3 days before she was due to have her puppies. I made sure that anyone that was interested in a puppy knew up front that while do date, Maggii was stripping clear, her Dam did have Fanconi. I was lucky that Maggii never spilled nor did any of her pups. That is what makes the test so valuable now and the ability to see for yourself that the DNA Fanconi tests were done.
Good luck with the tests and let us know how it goes
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Back from the vet! I don't have the urinanalysis or blood chemistry results yet, but I do have the blood gas results… it seems her pH is 7.32 - basically normal! and her pC02 level is slightly low at 42.9 (normal range being 45-47) There is a line that says "Glu 96 mg/dL" seems like that would be glucose and the normal range is 70-138 mg/dL from previous testing I had done.
So if it is fanconi, it seems like she would be on the lowest dosage of bicarbs - which i hope means we caught it early.
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btw i sent all the results to Dr. Gonto directly since the vet didn't know anything about basenjis or fanconi…
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btw i sent all the results to Dr. Gonto directly since the vet didn't know anything about basenjis or fanconi…
That was a smart thing to do…. you will have to see what Dr Gonto says about the blood gases and the rest of the results when you get them. And while again, I have not had a Fanconi dog, but sounds like you caught it early... Fingers crossed... let us know what Dr Gonto says.
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Well, I heard from Dr. Gonto (what a lovely man!). He believes we caught it in the very early stages and recommended the minimum course of bicarbs. I have everything here with me and will start her on it tomorrow. And even though her urine work didn't indicate a UTI, I got a course of Clavamox anyway - Tayda is peeing a lot and in small amounts - seems very consistant with a UTI so hopefully it will help!
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Well, I heard from Dr. Gonto (what a lovely man!). He believes we caught it in the very early stages and recommended the minimum course of bicarbs. I have everything here with me and will start her on it tomorrow. And even though her urine work didn't indicate a UTI, I got a course of Clavamox anyway - Tayda is peeing a lot and in small amounts - seems very consistant with a UTI so hopefully it will help!
Super… and yes he is a god sent to our breed.... fingers crossed that she does wonderful on the protocol.... and kudos to you for following up.... I still think you would benefit from the yahoo Fanconi list..
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And by the way… many times.... a UTI is missed with a Fanconi dog... so I think it is smart to do a course of Clavamox...
With the Clavamox, know that it can cause some tummy upset... so just keep that in mind during the course of treatment
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i joined the list yesterday! thanks for the suggestion… ill spend my day off tomorrow reading through the 10000 messages.
i gave tayda her first course tonight... 4 pills. 2 of them i just handed to her and she ate them... didn't even need to hide them. the other two i hid in cheese and she gulped them down. Lenny got 4 treats out of it too....
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i joined the list yesterday! thanks for the suggestion… ill spend my day off tomorrow reading through the 10000 messages.
i gave tayda her first course tonight... 4 pills. 2 of them i just handed to her and she ate them... didn't even need to hide them. the other two i hid in cheese and she gulped them down. Lenny got 4 treats out of it too....
That is great news… super..... that is the biggest problem that people have... getting to pills down... again...kudos to you....that is such wonderful news... and glad that you joined the Fanconi list... it will be a big comfort to you to know that there are others facing the same challenges you are....
Hugs to you and Tayda... she has a great Basenji Mom!!!!!!!!!!!
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Congrats for stepping up and getting on with it - life I mean. I said it before, Tayda is super lucky to have you!
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The fanconis list is a wonderful group.
Glad your on there.
Please keep us informed on how she is doing.
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Yes, definitely keep us posted on sweet Tayda's health!
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Sorry to hear about Tayda but she is one lucky girl to have a mom like you! Hopefully it was caught early & she does well on the protocol. We are all here for you!
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So glad to hear you've been able to get on with Tayda's care so quickly. Hope you're feeling a bit of relief, now that you talked with Dr. Gonto and her tests have been done.
Major kudos to you for getting the job done right. Best wishes for Tayda's health on the protocol.
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Thanks for sharing this journey. Lucky Tayda to have such a good mom, and lucky all of us B folks for Dr Gonto and for DNA testing and responsible breeders that may someday eliminate this scourge.
