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  • Well I'm not an expert, but my vet told me after expressing Nala's once or twice that it is a fiber issue. The glands should express themselves on every bowel movement, but sometimes if the dog's stools are loose for a while or not enough fiber, they won't. Take it from me, don't do it on your own. When you have them do it, leave the room (LOL)! As my kids would say, "Shoo-wee"!!

  • I have to manually express our Basenji's glands about once every three months. My husband hates it but it makes for a much happier dog.

    Seriously though, if you don't know how to do it, have your vet show you. It smells horrible and you have to learn how to "catch" it or it hits your wall or furniture (not fun to clean I might add). But once you know how to do it, it's not so bad and you can take care of it in less than five minutes.

    Signs your dog is uncomfortable with the their anal glands: excessive "scooting" along carpet, furniture, anything with a roughed up surface; excessive licking of the anus; an old fishy smell; leaking of an opaque ivory-yellow liquid.

    Like I said, Rocky needs his done every three-four months to keep him happy. However, if you ever see blood in the anal gland secretion (either from manual extration or when your dog deficates), immediately call your vet!!! This means one of the anal glands has abcessed and ruptured and needs immediate attention.

    Good luck!

  • Both of mine have to have their glands emptied every 8-10 weeks. Have you tried adding raw grated carrot to the food? It didn't help mine but might help yours. It can also be that your dogs glands are situated in the wrong place to express on their own which if the that is the case then no amount of change of diet will help.

  • None of my dogs have ever had an issue with anal glands…they express on their own occasionally. But I would really try to avoid manually expressing them, as I have read that once the glands are "reliant" on being done manually, they need to be done more and more. I don't know if the muscle that does it naturally is weakened, or the more they are expressed, the more fluid refills...but I really feel it is a natural process that shouldn't be messed with unless absolutely necessary. I prefer to raise the fiber in the food, to let the body work the way it is supposed to.

  • @basi:

    Both of mine have to have their glands emptied every 8-10 weeks. Have you tried adding raw grated carrot to the food? It didn't help mine but might help yours. It can also be that your dogs glands are situated in the wrong place to express on their own which if the that is the case then no amount of change of diet will help.

    Max's glands were situated in an atypical way and he had inflammatory bowel disease. During the last half of his life (about 8 years), I took him in every 2 weeks to get them expressed to keep him comfortable (and not licking) and avoid infection. Because they were situated atypically, I went to the same vet who knew exactly what to do. When he was on vacation and another vet would have to do it, it would always take them longer to get them epressed. Fortunately, my vet would give me a volume discount :) No–not based on anal fluid volume--based on the frequent visits :D

  • Caesar has terrible anal glands. Doctors have told me that once they are fixed, the anal glands are no longer functional and can be removed surgically which can be recommended if the anal glads get infected regularly. Keep in mind, this type of surgery can cause a dog to loose control of that sphincter.This is a route I would not recommend.

    Caesar gets his anal glands expressed once a month it is so bad. It is normal to have your dog's anal glands expressed once every 6 months. The doctors have also suggested the pumpkin pie filler to add fiber or Cheeriohs or a change in diet. None have made a real difference with him.

    Here is my tip for you on anal glands. Having a vet express them is the best $15 I have ever spent. You couldnt pay me to do it! There are two types of expressions. External and internal. If you go to a groomer or have a nurse do it, they will typically just express the gland externally. Fingers positioned at 10 and 2 o clock. This is a waste of money if you are having fish smell all the time.

    The internal expression means the vet will put a finger in the anus and pull the glan fluid out while pulling on the outside as well, getting most of the fluid out! A major difference and typically the same price and done at the same place. I found that if I asked to have the vet do it, they always came back with (glands were impacted) comments, vs. nurses doing the routine expression and having to go back again later.

    Caesar first started having problems with the anal gland at 1 yr old. He would be fine all day until we would sit and relax on the couch in the evening. He would at some point relax enough that he would be letting some of that fish liquid out! Oh man, thank goodness for leather couches and soapy sponges! LOL.

    My routine with him is to just take him into a Banfield when I go shopping at Petsmart and stop him in for the expression. I dont even pay for a sit down appt, just drop him off and they express him and pick him up.

    For the record, Caesar does a lot of screaming when his anal glands are expressed. Expressing glands is much healthier for your dog than watching them scoot on pavement when going for walks or them scooting on your bed or rugs!

    This is a bit graphic, but it is the basenji mommy in me. I look for "the eye". I watch his poop shoot and can tell when his glands are full by the area around the sphincter. It will typically swell vs a tight poop shoot. If the hole seems larger than normal all of the time, it is time to express. Take a look! Check the size before you get them expressed and after and you will understand what i am referring too. Sorry this topic is so gross…

  • Our basenjis' poodle had to have his anal glands removed. Now sometimes he'll bark, or get startled and he'll loose a turd.

    So yeah, don't have them removed if you don't have to. If you do, when they "need" to go out, they really "NEED!" to go out. No time to miss their cues.

  • I was never aware of this whole anal gland thing until a few years ago. My boss was telling me how he needs to express his Borzois' anal glands and how gross it was. I never knew that scooting on the floor was a symptom of this. I thought that maybe he just had a little irritable bowel. Sometimes when I walk him, he'll poop after a few minutes, then need to poop again a little while later. I notice the yellowish stuff that comes out at the end, so I'm assuming that he's expressing his anal glands naturally. Senji is 11 years old, and he's never had his anal glands expressed at the vet's office. He seems to get adequate fiber in his diet.

  • Very stinky! But we got the vets approval. Otherwise I wouldn't recommend a "newbie" doing it on their own.

  • LOL, that could be pretty dangerous!!

  • @ChaseandZahrasmom:

    Kind of gross but does anyone else have a problem with having to have anal glands expressed with their Basenji? :(

    We have our dog on antibiotics now for a bacterial infection of the anal glands. I hope it isn't a continuous problem. She is only 4 months old. Our vet suggested putting bran in her food so that's what we are trying.

  • I know of breeders that would express anal glands EVERY time they bathes dogs for shows… this was when they showed regularly.
    I found it to be the most disgusting thing ever.
    I have read and been told that doing it regularly makes it so they will need to have it done more often or issues will arise.
    No thanks... I have NO PROBLEMS opening up a new wing at the vets for this!

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