Menopause vs Basenjis - PLEASE READ my story! This is very important!

[Quercus]

Wow! I had heard about this somewhere else recently, and now I don't remember where. I am so sorry that you all had to go through that.

[nobarkus]

Wow Sadie that's something and much, much effort and expense on your part to find the cause. I've heard of this too some time ago but totally forgot about it.

[SyberSade]

:mad: Here's what my poor Haley looks like after nearly 3 years of exposure to the topical Estrogen/Estradiol spray EvaMist.

Is it not bad enough that she has to also have Fanconi?????!!!!!!!!

[SyberSade]

Here's a pic of my sweet, handsome Prince as we got him….....and one after nearly two years of exposure

How sad is this????!!!!!!!

[Quercus]

That is really interesting…it looks totally like a thyroid condition, but that makes sense..since thyroid, reproductive hormones and metabolic issues are all connected. I wonder if the AVMA has sent out a bulletin or something about this to their members...seems like it might be a good idea, so they can catch it right away...

[eeeefarm]

Hormones are very powerful, and can have dramatic effects. Your story doesn't surprise me, only that it took so long for an experienced vet to nail the diagnosis. When more than one dog is involved, look for something in the environment for sure. I'm surprised it took so long for someone to do a thorough look at blood work and discover the abnormality. Glad you have found the answer, and thank you for posting it as a heads up for others.

[SyberSade]

@Quercus:

That is really interesting…it looks totally like a thyroid condition, but that makes sense..since thyroid, reproductive hormones and metabolic issues are all connected. I wonder if the AVMA has sent out a bulletin or something about this to their members...seems like it might be a good idea, so they can catch it right away...

I agree. I will be reporting it to the FDA and the specialty vet is working on a report for a vet convention in Canada, too. I'm going to tell anyone who'll listen!

[nobarkus]

Sadie,
I would hurt to send blood samples to Dr Dodds or OFA for a full thyroid check. Most vets cannot perform the more complete test.

[SyberSade]

@nobarkus:

Sadie,
It wouldn't hurt to send blood samples to Dr Dodds or OFA for a full thyroid check. Most vets cannot perform the more complete test.

Hi Dan,
Who is Dr Dodds and the OFA? (color me BLOND! teehee)
Sadie

[nobarkus]

Dr Dodds does the more extensive thyroid test in S. CA at the lab, Hemopet
http://www.hemopet.org/

OFA (Orthopedic Foundation for Animals) does the Fanconi DNA testing we all get and they will help you with the thyroid test too. They have a list of approved labs.
http://www.offa.org/thy_labs.html

You would need to get the blood drawn and shipped from your local vet to either of these labs. They provide complete instructions for you and the vet on what to do.

[Quercus]

@nobarkus:

Sadie,
I would hurt to send blood samples to Dr Dodds or OFA for a full thyroid check. Most vets cannot perform the more complete test.

I agree; if nothing else, I am sure Dr. Dodds would love to learn more about this phenomenon

[MacPack]

Maybe vets, like human docs, start along one diagnosis track and are so focused they don't think outside the box. In retrospect, all that you say, eeeefarm, makes perfect sense! Especially both dogs being involved. Note to vets, bald dogs belonging to 40-ish females: check hormone levels!

So goad you have an answer at last, hopefully they will be furry little critters soon!

[tanza]

Very interesting and does make perfect sense… I am glad now that I went through menopause "naked".. so to speak. However it was not fun....:(

[SyberSade]

Thank you everyone…......especially Anne "my new best friend" in Tampa who suggested that I might only be 40-ish!!! hehe

[agilebasenji]

WOW - thanks for sharing. I wonder about people babysitting small children, does it rub off on them? I'm guessing it rubbed off on the dogs, or were they licking you?

[eeeefarm]

Just for interest sake, I ran the scenario by my niece, who is a vet. She knew about the connection…...and would have nailed it. Nice to know she is on top of things like this.

[CongoMama]

Topical human hormones and animals was mentioned in this

thread

Hope I did this right.

[nobarkus]

Read this article.
http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=15950

[SyberSade]

@nobarkus:

Read this article.
http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=15950

I read this one earlier today, Dan. Scary, huh?!

[SyberSade]

@eeeefarm:

Just for interest sake, I ran the scenario by my niece, who is a vet. She knew about the connection…...and would have nailed it. Nice to know she is on top of things like this.

GOOD FOR HER!!! Wish she'd been my vet!