Official recommendation–no more annual vaccines

[DebraDownSouth]

It's about freaking time!
http://www.vetinfo.com/dog-vaccine-dangers.html
….. This means there is no need for the so-called 'booster' shots every year for diseases such as canine parvovirus, canine adenovirus and canine distemper virus.
New Dog Vaccine Protocol

This research has led all 27 veterinary colleges in the United States to revise their protocols in regards to vaccinating dogs.

EDITED NOTE! I already said this later in thread but so no one gets confused. This info, while what research has said for about 15 yrs, is NOT documented as recommended. Recommended is STILL puppy shots, shots once immune system developed and off mom's antibodies (probably means 6 mos if not previously vaccinated or unknown, not to WAIT til 6 mos…), then every 3 yrs. For MOST of us, it means puppy shots, then at a year, then every 3 yrs (or do titers).

[tanza]

@DebraDownSouth:

It's about freaking time!
http://www.vetinfo.com/dog-vaccine-dangers.html
….. This means there is no need for the so-called 'booster' shots every year for diseases such as canine parvovirus, canine adenovirus and canine distemper virus.
New Dog Vaccine Protocol

This research has led all 27 veterinary colleges in the United States to revise their protocols in regards to vaccinating dogs.

Very interesting, so what does this mean for puppies that received their shots last year at the 9/12/16 (more or less) weeks? Since this says at 6 months, does this mean that they (puppies from last year) should still get the boster this year?

[sharronhurlbut]

I agree that too many shots can hurt your pet.
I only do titers on my older ones.

[lvoss]

@DebraDownSouth:

It's about freaking time!
http://www.vetinfo.com/dog-vaccine-dangers.html
….. This means there is no need for the so-called 'booster' shots every year for diseases such as canine parvovirus, canine adenovirus and canine distemper virus.
New Dog Vaccine Protocol

This research has led all 27 veterinary colleges in the United States to revise their protocols in regards to vaccinating dogs.

Do you have a link to the actual Veterinary recommended protocol? This website has no official sources cited.

[tanza]

@lvoss:

Do you have a link to the actual Veterinary recommended protocol? This website has no official sources cited.

Thanks Lisa, that is what I noticed also when I searched

[deschroedter]

the problem is with city/county rules that require the annual rabies vaca, when they last for 3 years and we have to have it to get the city tag. Now that we no longer show, we do not do any of the other vacas. We do not board them, have a sitter at home to watch them when we travel.

[wizard]

Eventually the cities/counties will come around (we have 2 or 3 yr rabies and the city accepts that). Of more concern to me is how fast the vets will respond to this "new" research!

[Quercus]

@wizard:

Eventually the cities/counties will come around (we have 2 or 3 yr rabies and the city accepts that). Of more concern to me is how fast the vets will respond to this "new" research!

I am actually concerned about vet practices. This will kill a lot of them, because people won't bother to bring their animals in at all, until they are sick…really sick. A lot of vets rely on income from annual checkups/vaccines. Other vet services will have to go up in price to cover the cost of business

Although, I totally agree that it would be great not to have to pump my dogs full of unnecessary vaccines, and it would be great not to have to pay for unnecessary vaccines...there will be a downside.

[tanza]

Quercus,
You certainly have a point…

[JoT]

@lvoss:

Do you have a link to the actual Veterinary recommended protocol? This website has no official sources cited.

Yes, formal citation please???

[DebraDownSouth]

In looking at sites, I find they still say 3 yrs OR do titers. I would rather do a titer every 3 yrs than revaccinate, and absolutely if your vet pushes for yearly or every other year, print out info and find a new vet.

@tanza:

Very interesting, so what does this mean for puppies that received their shots last year at the 9/12/16 (more or less) weeks? Since this says at 6 months, does this mean that they (puppies from last year) should still get the boster this year?

If vaccinated prior to 6 mos, do next regular then covered. Most say vaccinate no more than every 3 yrs after that.

@lvoss:

Do you have a link to the actual Veterinary recommended protocol? This website has no official sources cited.

@deschroedter:

the problem is with city/county rules that require the annual rabies vaca, when they last for 3 years and we have to have it to get the city tag.

The sad thing is, they have PROVEN rabies is effective AT LEAST 10 yrs. And that after 2nd shot, does NOT improve immunity. But getting gov't to change, not so easy.
http://www.newvaccinationprotocols.com/K9%20Recommendations.htm

Here are some links:
http://www.critteradvocacy.org/Canine%20Vaccination%20Guidlines.htm

http://webcanine.com/2007/colorado-state-univ-protocol/ (every 3 yrs, even though the AVMA admits finds NO validity to vaccinating again)

http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vth/vaccinations.aspx

[Kananga]

@Quercus:

I am actually concerned about vet practices. This will kill a lot of them, because people won't bother to bring their animals in at all, until they are sick…really sick. A lot of vets rely on income from annual checkups/vaccines. Other vet services will have to go up in price to cover the cost of business

They have to find a way to adapt. Perhaps instead of pet owners spending as much $ on annual vaccines, they can put it towards other preventative care that would normally be overlooked due to existing priorities.

To me, the dog's health should be the primary concern. If it's proven that the frequency of vaccines are unnecessary, they should change.

A smart vet will take a change like this and alter their business practices to help their business remain profitable going forward. There's always a way. It just comes down to motivation and acceptance.

[Shaye's Mom]

There is another problem in that even if the vet changes his protocol, most daycare/boarding facilities require proof of yearly vaccinations. Of course if you never have to leave your dogs, ever, then there's no problem.

[thunderbird8588]

@Shaye's:

There is another problem in that even if the vet changes his protocol, most daycare/boarding facilities require proof of yearly vaccinations. Of course if you never have to leave your dogs, ever, then there's no problem.

a very good point and also some insurance policies are invalidated if the animal is not up to date with boosters.
I'm afraid in the UK the protocol is for yearly boosters, have been in touch with the royal society of veterinary surgeons and they told me that they couldn't comment and it's up to individual vets.
Whenever i have asked the question about vaccinating less i am given a standard answer.
Maybe we will catch up at some point

[DebraDownSouth]

@Shaye's:

There is another problem in that even if the vet changes his protocol, most daycare/boarding facilities require proof of yearly vaccinations. Of course if you never have to leave your dogs, ever, then there's no problem.

If enough people REFUSED to used places that do that, you can bet they will change. Yep, yearly on kennel cough, I can see. Up to date on rabies, absolutely.

The rest is crock. The only… ONLY ONLY ONLY adult dogs who ever get distemper or parvo are dogs with weakened immune systems. GUESS WHAT? Vaccinating wouldn't help. You need a good immune system to make the antibodies (hence every single vaccine says DO NOT VACCINATE SICK DOGS).

[agilebasenji]

@DebraDownSouth:

If enough people REFUSED to used places that do that, you can bet they will change. Yep, yearly on kennel cough, I can see. Up to date on rabies, absolutely.

The rest is crock. The only… ONLY ONLY ONLY adult dogs who ever get distemper or parvo are dogs with weakened immune systems. GUESS WHAT? Vaccinating wouldn't help. You need a good immune system to make the antibodies (hence every single vaccine says DO NOT VACCINATE SICK DOGS).

Kennels, daycare, etc in this state must follow laws put forth by the Ag department in this state. And dogs do have to be vaccined in accordance with the state law (3yr vacc is okay, yearly for kennel cough). So boycotting won't do much good, unless you'd rather go to uninspected places that are not in compliance with the law.

[DebraDownSouth]

Yes but some say require yearly. Some require the dog on heartworm meds. GA Ag told me rabies only requirement, yet boarding have their own. Anyway, call around, find those who let you do 3 yr, or find a good pet sitter.

[gbroxon]

I still have not found what I would consider an "official recommendation" of this vetinfo.com official recommendation; some site like the AVMA that I could point my ordinary-pet-folk friends to (those who are unwilling to spend time researching). Anybody find anything like that?

[DebraDownSouth]

@gbroxon:

I still have not found what I would consider an "official recommendation" of this vetinfo.com official recommendation; some site like the AVMA that I could point my ordinary-pet-folk friends to (those who are unwilling to spend time researching). Anybody find anything like that?

I gave one hospital.
This is the AAHA (vet hospital guidelines)… sadly you need to print or turn head sideways to see the 3 yr guideline info
http://www.aahanet.org/publicdocuments/vaccineguidelines06revised.pdf

http://secure.aahanet.org/eweb/dynamicpage.aspx?site=resources&webcode=CanineVaccineGuidelines

This very good article from the AVMA journal gives overview and states:

Some veterinarians, who may be abiding by corporate policies, recommend that every dog and cat receive every vaccine every year. This is a blatant example of overvaccination, he said.

http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/sep04/040915l.asp

[tanza]

This is the 3 yr recommendation that most all Vets are now using? I think the question was where is this new one that clms none needed after one set of shots as a puppy at 6 months? (Exception being rabies)