Blue tri basenji
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wrote on 2 Aug 2009, 18:02 last edited by
This site is always full of surprises for me! liked seeing the tri-blue very unusual.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2009, 18:13 last edited by
I think the consensus was maybe. Hard to tell for sure from the pics of the pups and parents.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2009, 18:31 last edited by
I went to Sally's website and did find some "Nocturnal" dogs listed, but the registration numbers were strange. Some were clear, some carriers. I also tried to find decendents from the blue dogs May Morning of Sin and Morining Mist of Sin, but that also was a dead end. However, relatives of these dogs have been used.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2009, 18:47 last edited by
I have never seen anything like that before. The eyes are also blue, so I am all sorts of confused about that one. I half expected it to have red eyes and be some sort of albino type pup.
I am thinking the blue in the eyes is the reflection, not the color. Blue dobes have brown eyes, just like black ones.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2009, 20:17 last edited by
The tri blue is a beautiful dog - never saw another like it - but if I did I'd grab it in a minute!
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wrote on 2 Aug 2009, 20:24 last edited by
@Shaye's:
The tri blue is a beautiful dog - never saw another like it - but if I did I'd grab it in a minute!
I agree…I think we all agree....I can't imagine why the original founders of our breed wished to get rid of that color. Such a shame.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2009, 20:59 last edited by
I guess I am of the minority…regarding the color... While I can appreciate a good structured dog of any color, I would have a tough time with the Blue.....
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wrote on 2 Aug 2009, 21:00 last edited by
I am thinking the blue in the eyes is the reflection, not the color. Blue dobes have brown eyes, just like black ones.
I would have guess the eyes were light, but not really blue. I have a blue malinois and her eyes are a weird greyish color, definately not the brown of our previous (normally colored) malinois. Also Siri, the Avongara blue fawn colored dog, has light colored eyes.
http://www.basenji.org/african/Siri.htm
But I do thing the color in the photo is due to the reflection and not the true eye color
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wrote on 2 Aug 2009, 22:39 last edited by
I would have guess the eyes were light, but not really blue. I have a blue malinois and her eyes are a weird greyish color, definately not the brown of our previous (normally colored) malinois. Also Siri, the Avongara blue fawn colored dog, has light colored eyes.
http://www.basenji.org/african/Siri.htm
But I do thing the color in the photo is due to the reflection and not the true eye color
Interesting. There's a kennel not too far from here that I spoke with awhile ago. They mentioned that they had a few basenjis in there before, and that they've seen different colors. At one point he mentioned there was a "blond" basenji. Until now I thought he was simply mistaken, but that link means there might be one nearby with the same coloring.
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wrote on 26 Jul 2010, 17:23 last edited by
Very beautiful looking pup. Just wanted to let people know Sarah lee–breeder of Nocturnal kennels-- is a very sweet lady and is not a puppy mill. She is one of the few that i know to have the blue color trait.
Just wanted to clear this up. :)
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wrote on 26 Jul 2010, 17:33 last edited by
Blue dogs are pretty, but I know in other breeds blue is often linked to immune problems and allergies.
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wrote on 26 Jul 2010, 17:52 last edited by
Its a pretty pup, I like unusual and its certainly that. Seeing it next to the normal tri though, i really do prefer the normal ones. The blue looks kind of washed out or something…
Still, if i got one of those in a litter i'd have to keep it just cos its different lol
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wrote on 26 Jul 2010, 20:03 last edited by
Very beautiful looking pup. Just wanted to let people know Sarah lee–breeder of Nocturnal kennels-- is a very sweet lady and is not a puppy mill. She is one of the few that i know to have the blue color trait.
Just wanted to clear this up. :)
Color aside…..
While we all have our own ideas on what is or is not a responsible breeder and/or a puppy mill and/or Backyard Breeder, my personal opinion is that this is not a responsble breeder. Why? 1st they breed/sell and have a number of different breeds that they breed and sell (at least 5 different breeds). And in my opinion, there is no way that you can properly socialize puppies having that many. They do not sell on a spay/neuter contract or any contract that I can see, therefore breeding of their puppies produced and sold with or without their knowledge is pretty much a reality. This would lead one to believe there there is no way they can keep track of all the puppies they have bred and sold, so hard to believe that they are responsible and take back any puppy bred/sold if the owners had to give up that particular dog for whatever reason. And/or be responsible for the offspring of anyone breeding any puppy that they have sold/placed.
While I see that they have Fanconi tested a few of the Basenjis (or it could have been offspring) that I could find in Sally's database, 3 of the bitches are carriers, so even bred to a clear, are the puppies tested so that any buyer would know if their pup is a carrier or clear, especially seeing that they don't use spay/neuter contracts? Without that knowledge, that pup could be bred to another carrier and produce affected.
Also, looking at the pictures, clearly to me, the dogs are kept in pretty bleak kennel runs.... and again, in my opinion, are not up to AKC standards in type or conformation. And it doesn't look like they are AKC registered according to Sally's side or the AKC site with the exception of the one MaleFlaming suit ready and waiting
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wrote on 26 Jul 2010, 21:43 last edited by
And it doesn't look like they are AKC registered according to Sally's side or the AKC site with the exception of the one Male
Flaming suit ready and waiting
No flaming from me. I just wanted to add that they are not AKC registered nor are they AKC registerable. The breeder has not provided pedigree information on the blues when asked.
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wrote on 26 Jul 2010, 23:44 last edited by
I would like to know the pedigree since I rescued a few CKC-Continental Kennel Club Bs a few years ago-reds & brindles-all males. They were from different breeders in Southern OH who sold them to an Amish USDA dealer/breeder.
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wrote on 27 Jul 2010, 00:36 last edited by
I would like to know the pedigree since I rescued a few CKC-Continental Kennel Club Bs a few years ago-reds & brindles-all males. They were from different breeders in Southern OH who sold them to an Amish USDA dealer/breeder.
You can go onto Sally's sight and search under Nocturnal Kennels, there is only one with a pedigree on there… while the rest are there because of Fanconi testing they are listed as Unknown/Unknown
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wrote on 27 Jul 2010, 15:25 last edited by
Wow, that pup is absolutely beautiful! :) Very different I love it.
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wrote on 27 Jul 2010, 17:50 last edited by
Wow! That's pretty cool!
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wrote on 29 Jul 2010, 22:04 last edited by
Diana Berry of the Sin Kennels produced blues and also creams. These colours were never accepted by the then Basenji Club but Diana was a bit of a rebel and wasn't bothered. At that time the majority of Basenjis with the 'wrong' colours were culled. To my knowledge she never shared but insisted that she could breed the colour any time. I wonder if this dog goes back to them - I haven't checked Sally's database yet. Diana's didn't have blue eyes as I remember but were quite light. I've never talked about them with her son but i've a feeling it might have been before he was born so he might not know.
