Lisa, somebody "stole" the Cambria prefix several years back, and almost guaranteed all of the dogs you see currently in BYB or puppymill dogs that have Cambria dogs, are NOT the Cambria dogs we are familiar with. That is the reason that about five years ago (?) the BCOA retired the Cambria prefix.
I am aware of that and 1 of the 3 in the OFA database is from the BYB, the other two are I believe both true Cambria dogs.
this seemed to be the best option for a student in a large apartment to get a very special kind of dog to be a great pet. thanks though for your concerns, they just seem very negative towards a not too overly protective B parent.
I have a real problem with this statement. I got my first basenji as a college student living in an apartment and found responsible breeders were quite willing to talk with me. Some did ask me about my schedule and my plans for the future but none were rude or unwilling to talk to me. There are some breeders that do require a fenced yard but most breeders I talked to were willing to place a dog in an apartment but were very interested in hearing what my plan to provide adequate exercise was. As a breeder, I have placed a puppy with a college student living in an apartment and I did require him to bring a letter from his apartment complex stating that dogs were allowed and he had made arrangements with them to have a dog but I require that of anyone who rents since that is one of the Top 10 reasons dogs are surrendered to shelters. So maybe this was the path of least resistance but I agree with Andrea that it should not be put out there as the "best option".
As a breeder myself, I can appreciate the desire for a few folks here to try to educate etzbseder about why its important to buy from a responsible breeder but etzbseder has already purchased a dog that he says he is happy with. I don't think he's going to send his dog back to his breeder and run out and buy a different Basenji because "we" think he should have bought one elsewhere. The same can be said for dogs obtained through rescue also since almost all of them originated from backyard breeders and puppy mills. Its a risk and some people are ok with that. That said, hopefully people will read this thread and learn the importance of responsible breeders and possibly seek one out when they are ready for another Basenji. Kudos to all of our fabulous breeder posters who are so wonderful about helping others out. Let us be there for etzbseder when he needs us. Best wishes to all.
His first came from a backyard breeder, my first came from a pet store/puppymill. I can't judge, nor would I want to. I understand exactly where he is coming from.
There are soo many posts to respond to but he does strip test his dogs that are over 3 and the cambria that is his parent is 6 years old and probably is the cambria that you're thinking of. I'm not sure exactly who I spoke with but there were 2 from CO and 3 from out-of-state. I had been looking at breeders for about 7 months before getting a puppy and the breeder did tell me all the negatives about the breed, but he also told me many of the positives and I was a member here before getting the dog to do about half of my research about the breed. I'm not sure what he was planning for with the breeding this time, but I know by taking the runt, but most loving and nice one of the bunch, that I may not have gotten the goal of the breeding. He is adjusting very well to my schedule and his having to be crated and alone for about 1-2 hours a day. He is also learning to get along with the mut so he can be with him instead of alone. He is learning very quickly and is putting on a bit of weight because of the change from ol roys to royal canin dog food. I will post pictures as soon as I get my camera working. I do plan on staying part of this forum as it is the best place so far to get advice when needed and look up other peoples problems to try to help/learn from them.
Vegas, it's nice to see that I'm not the only one trying to give good homes to some the less wanted puppies out there. This is my first dog but my parents dogs have all come from pounds. That's where we got our mutt and when I tried to take it to school last year, they wouldn't let me because they love him so much. Being a 20 yr old college student, I don't have the money to pay 1k for a top pick puppy, but may end up getting a second B when I'm done from college from one of the other breeders that may even cost near 1k as I won't have to spend as much money on all the toys and crates and leashes and such. I have just about 2 of everything so mine could grow and find the one he enjoys.
I'm very proud of you to take everything in context. While some differences do occur between us, I am happy you are satisfied with your choice. The change in dog food will make a huuge difference. Please keep him loving by socialising him with other dogs and people as well. We're not bashing you for wanting to give a dog a good home, just concerned with all the BYB. Personally, I hope all the best for you and that you don't have any problems with this dog. Can't wait for the pics, and congrats.
He is learning very quickly and is putting on a bit of weight because of the change from ol roys to royal canin dog food.
We fed Royal Canin exclusively and changed because of some RC recalls. Make sure what your feeding isn't on the recall list.
http://www.royalcanin.us/recalled.html
As a breeder myself, I can appreciate the desire for a few folks here to try to educate etzbseder about why its important to buy from a responsible breeder but etzbseder has already purchased a dog that he says he is happy with. I don't think he's going to send his dog back to his breeder and run out and buy a different Basenji because "we" think he should have bought one elsewhere. The same can be said for dogs obtained through rescue also since almost all of them originated from backyard breeders and puppy mills. Its a risk and some people are ok with that. That said, hopefully people will read this thread and learn the importance of responsible breeders and possibly seek one out when they are ready for another Basenji. Kudos to all of our fabulous breeder posters who are so wonderful about helping others out. Let us be there for etzbseder when he needs us. Best wishes to all.
I agree Robyn, and I hope I made it clear that I *am glad we are here to help everyone who has a basenji however they got one. I don't *at *all want etzbseder to return his puppy. I just resist the idea being put out there that responsible breeders are too picky to place dogs in most homes. I think that kind of attitude scares people away from seeking out responsible breeders. I also will argue the proposition that a responsibly bred puppy costs around $1,000…..in most areas of the country IME that is just not the case. And if that *is the case, maybe we , as breeders, need to re-evaluate, because most families simply cannot afford that for a puppy....
I agree Robyn, and I hope I made it clear that I *am glad we are here to help everyone who has a basenji however they got one. I don't *at *all want etzbseder to return his puppy. I just resist the idea being put out there that responsible breeders are too picky to place dogs in most homes. I think that kind of attitude scares people away from seeking out responsible breeders. I also will argue the proposition that a responsibly bred puppy costs around $1,000…..in most areas of the country IME that is just not the case. And if that *is the case, maybe we , as breeders, need to re-evaluate, because most families simply cannot afford that for a puppy....
In California and I believe the PNW, average price is 850 to 950.00 for a pet puppy, many of us do NOT have a difference between pet and show. Yes, it does differ across the US… but I know that I have not had a problem with the quoted prices.... and even at that price, you can't cover the cost of a litter here in California... and if something goes wrong like Rally and her C-section, losing a puppy, only having three..... well, you get the idea...
In California and I believe the PNW, average price is 850 to 950.00 for a pet puppy, many of us do NOT have a difference between pet and show. Yes, it does differ across the US… but I know that I have not had a problem with the quoted prices.... and even at that price, you can't cover the cost of a litter here in California... and if something goes wrong like Rally and her C-section, losing a puppy, only having three..... well, you get the idea...
Wow…well, we probably couldn't have afforded to get a puppy if we had started out in California....but then again, we couldn't afford to live in California 
I think Querk was $400 on a co-ownership, he ended up being the best male in the litter, and a Am/Can Champion...so it wasn't like we were getting the bargain basement price 
Wow…well, we probably couldn't have afforded to get a puppy if we had started out in California....but then again, we couldn't afford to live in California
Of course years ago, my Maggii and OJ were under $500. (almost 16yrs ago) and Maggii and Mickii were (and still are co-owned by M. Leighton for that matter) were on a co-ownership, so a little cheaper price… However as with everything, prices are more then tripled here... hey, we pay the highest in gas, housing, even entries fees are higher in California.. (I know from entering Paris back there and enter dogs out here)... vet bills are higher... well you get the picture... so the prices are not out of line with the area....
You can't walk into most Vet offices out here without paying less that $100... and that would be for just an exam and "maybe" a stool sample... gggg
You'll pay close to $1000.00 at Pet land if not more. My Son worked for one and I was amazed what people are paying for a pup.
Most of our's cost around $500.00 to $750.00.
we paid $450 for our only "bought" basenji. She developed a pancreatic disorder when we got her, and when we called to inform the breeder she offered to exchange her, refund our money, or take her back.
We, of course, wouldn't have any of that. Katy is my sweet-heart.:)
You'll pay close to $1000.00 at Pet land if not more. My Son worked for one and I was amazed what people are paying for a pup.
Most of our's cost around $500.00 to $750.00.
The few pet stores in California that sell puppies (lucky that we don't have a lot of pet stores selling pups) charge 1500.00 to 2000.00 for Basenjis… yikes!!!!!
I think $800 - 900 is about par for Washington state.
Just to start putting the cost of a puppy into perspective I started a new thread and listed some of the expenses.
Most breeders I have talked to, wanted 1,000 for a SHOW puppy. And much less for a pet puppy. $500 is about what I'd charge for a pet.
Most breeders I have talked to, wanted 1,000 for a SHOW puppy. And much less for a pet puppy. $500 is about what I'd charge for a pet.
Well that is fine if you can charge $500 for a puppy.. and still try and cover your costs… like I said, pretty impossible in California and most of the PNW..
Again also, I can only think of one or two breeders on the West Coast that have different prices for show or pet.
For me there are several reasons to charge the same amount for all puppies. First of all each puppy in my house recieves the same care and therefore incurs the same expense. They each benefit from the research and health testing that went into planning the litter. All my dogs are first and foremost companions anything else that they do is bonus so my prices are based on their primary purpose, companions. My price is driven by the cost of living and therefore breeding in my area. I do offer a $50 rebate for the completion of puppy kindergarten.
