Pip's fanconi test.

[crystalncody]

Sending happy, "clear" thoughts your way.

BTW, I did the same thing… I pressed really hard on the card. I thought they were going to tell me that I needed to do it again, lol, but it was fine.

[moetmum]

I e-mailed OFA as I hadn't heard anything, Pip has come back indeterminate. He should be clear by parentage.

I was right that I didn't do a good job on the test. I wish that they had just sent another kit. I would suggest to anyone to get another kit BEFORE testing, I am now having to start over and order the test again

[tanza]

Did you try emailing Jon Curby directly and asking him about the results? If you email me privately I can give you his email address. Or Sally would have it to, I think

[nobarkus]

As long as some saliva got on that card they should of been able to do the test. As Pat said I would email them.

[moetmum]

I e-mailed through the contact us button on the OFA site, Sally did say I should contact John Curby earlier in the week.

I sent another e-mail and they replied that there would have been enough DNA to test or they would have sent another kit. The results are too close to say one way or another so he will be recorded as indeterminate.

Both of his parents are clear and the test should have been a formality. I don't know if it is worth re-testing, although I still think it was to do with the original swab.

[Patty]

I'm not sure - our USA members are in a better position to advise - but I thought that dogs can't be definitely clear by parentage, remembering that it is a mutant gene. I personally would alwys check offspring whether both parents are clear or not as you have obviously done. If you are worried that you had 'messed' up the test I would think it would be better to take another swab and then your mind could be set at rest.

This is reminding me to have the rest of my boys tested as although i'm not intending to breed any more, I'm curious. Their dad was clear and their mother a carrier.

[lvoss]

Who were the "they"? You should make sure that Dr Johnson's lab is aware of your result because it may be something they want to check out for their research into the Direct Gene Test.

[Tiva]

I know about basenji who was tested carrier, although both parents are clear. And now your is indeterminate and has clear parents… I hope that there was some mistake and that results of both dogs are false.

[tanza]

@Tiva:

I know about basenji who was tested carrier, although both parents are clear. And now your is indeterminate and has clear parents… I hope that there was some mistake and that results of both dogs are false.

And was the lab (Dr. Johnson/Jon Curby) notified about this? Labs do make errors as there are humans that work in them.

There have been results that people would not expect, however in a couple of the cases, the "parents" of the dog in question was not really the parents

[moetmum]

I will at some point re-test Pip, I just wish I had been sent another kit as I had serious doubts about the quality of the first swab I did, had it come back IND then I might have believed it.

We have to keep testing and "test the test". There is no doubt as to Pip's parentage or the parents results, he was definitely clear to clear.

I understood that one of the main reasons dogs come back IND is because there isn't enough DNA to test.

[tanza]

@moetmum:

I understood that one of the main reasons dogs come back IND is because there isn't enough DNA to test.

I don't think that is correct? This is from the FAQ's at www.basenjihealth.org on Fanconi Testing. I still think you should contact Jon Curby, if you have not already

My dog came back indeterminate, what does that mean? Should I re-test?
Answer: Our linkage test uses 3 markers (for a total of 6 alleles) to predict Fanconi status and requires that all 3 be in agreement. An indeterminate result means the 3 markers are not in agreement (view sample results) and therefore cannot predict Fanconi status.