@zande - Very true Zande and also the litter size for Basenji are typically only 4 to 6 pups... so available pups are very limited.
Basenji boy in GA needs new home
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He is a beautiful dog. Just curious and trying to learn here, what is it about him that you feel does not meet your conformation standards? Please be as descriptive as you can.
Thanks,
Jason and Miranda
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Here is a link to a site by a respected breeder and judge from Austrialia… take a look and see if you all can compare the pictures (remembering that Robyn's are not professional) to the pictures/descriptions that are in the article
http://www.webpage-world.com/vicjudges/basenji/BASENJI.html -
Here is a link to a site by a respected breeder and judge from Austrialia… take a look and see if you all can compare the pictures (remembering that Robyn's are not professional) to the pictures/descriptions that are in the article
http://www.webpage-world.com/vicjudges/basenji/BASENJI.htmlTanza, I did follow the link you provided and read through it. It is one that I have read through before, but I am just not experienced enough to really know what might concern Robyn in regard to conformation, so I am hoping Robyn will answer in a post.
Thanks
Jason -
He is a beautiful dog. Just curious and trying to learn here, what is it about him that you feel does not meet your conformation standards? Please be as descriptive as you can.
Thanks,
Jason and Miranda
Honestly? There is no reason why Rocky could not be shown to his championship. He is as good as, or even better than, alot of what you see in the ring these days. That said, I will give you my personal opinion of what I see.
He has a nice head with good proportions, good earset, enough head wrinkle plus side wrinkle, black nose with dark eye rims and lip pigment, scissors bite, and a pleasing expression. He could use a darker eye and slightly more almond shaped eye.
I would like to see a little more length of neck though it looks worse in this photo than it really is in person. (He was scrunching down wanting to jump off the table.) He has a level topline and nice tail curl but his tail needs to be set higher. He has good rear angulation, very nice feet, stunning coat with rich coloration, and is squarely built. The big fault on Rocky lies in his front assembly. He has an upright shoulder and short upper arm and this restricts his front movement. This type of front assembly is very common in the show ring today and (unfortunately) he would fit right in. However, I do not feel this front assembly should be perpetuated and is the main reason why I feel he should be neutered.
That said, I have taken Rocky through 2 series of show handling classes and he gaits, stacks, and is easily examined. He enjoys being in the center of everything and would probably make a very good dog for Junior Handling or even a good "starter dog" for someone interested in learning to show but not breed.
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Robyn, I would agree with you on your opinion… and that said, even dogs that finish their championship are not and should not be bred, IMO.... My male finished, never used... one of my girls finished, never used... another one of my boy's finished, collected but not used... every dog has their faults..
And totally agree with Robyn that one of the biggest faults we have today is the front end of the dog. Too many are way to straight in the shoulder and therefore hinders the front movement. So as breeders we take the best of what we have and breed to the best we can find to help resolve those problems...
To carry Robyn's comments a bit further, her line goes from moderate shoulders to straight... (and I am not picking on Robyn's dogs just expanding on her comments) so for her, to pick the best assembly and look for a match that not only has a good front, but is known to reproduce that front is what I am sure she is wanting to do.
The other fault I see way to much is low tail set and no "shelf". I have that problem in my line also.. Maggii was the "queen" of low tail set... (meaning it sits way to far back on the butt).. but she did have a good shelf. From Doreen's description of shelf:
"The tail is set very high and placed right on top of the hindquarters with the buttock curving out considerably beyond the root of the tail. This gives a strong reachy appearance to the hindquarters and is referred to as the "shelf".Another thing I have seen too much of recently is a round eye instead of almond shaped...
All that said, I can forgive many things, but in the end, I am a "head" hunter... regardless how nice the dog/bitch is... I have a problem if they do not have a pleasing head.
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One more comment about conformation…. another thing that really gets to me is that I want a dog to look like a dog and a bitch to look like a bitch...
There are too many doggy bitches and bitchy dogs.... I don't want to have to check the "plumbing" to see what the sex is.... ggg
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One more comment about conformation…. another thing that really gets to me is that I want a dog to look like a dog and a bitch to look like a bitch...
There are too many doggy bitches and bitchy dogs.... I don't want to have to check the "plumbing" to see what the sex is.... ggg
Hahahaha. Famous words…
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Hello
Wondering if he's still available. I'm looking to be adopted by one
Let me know.Emily
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Yes, Rocky is available. E-mail me if you would like to chat about him.
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Yes, Pat, I would agree with you about the Bitchy Dogs and Doggy Bitches. It seems there are a lot more of them in recent years also. And to find something decent, I'm finding myself now looking at older dogs to breed with.
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I always try to find older dogs to breed to… and if not old themselves, at least their sire/dam and grandparents have age on them.. I don't like seeing dogs with a pedigree that the oldest is 5yrs old in the 3rd generation
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I wasn't sure of your e-mail address. I'm curious about talking to different breeders, and possibly getting on a waiting list?
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I am not yodeldogs but her email is posted in the very first post of this thread along with all the details about Rocky.
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Oh I'm sorry. I wasn't meaning that for you, but thank you very much!
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Rocky left for his new home last Saturday and I am pleased to announce that things are going well. He lives about a half hour from me with two fabulous men who adore him. Rocky gets to be the center of attention with plenty of long walks and lots of playtime. He even gets to sleep in the bed now.
I'm never in a hurry to place a dog….the right home will eventually came along.....and this is Rocky's right home.
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How great for both you and Rocky! Did you give them info about this forum so they can meet and greet with Rocky's kin and friends? You're on a roll - Rocky has found a good home and you got the good news about Baron. Might be a good day to pick 6 lucky numbers and get a lottery ticket.
Pat
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How great for both you and Rocky! Did you give them info about this forum so they can meet and greet with Rocky's kin and friends? You're on a roll - Rocky has found a good home and you got the good news about Baron. Might be a good day to pick 6 lucky numbers and get a lottery ticket.
Pat
They found the forum and it led them to me. I really hope they choose to participate here though. Guys, are you reading this? Don't be bashful, come join the fun!
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AND come to our basenji meet-ups on Saturdays at 11am! Pinckneyville Park in Norcross. We'd love to see you there.
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Rocky left for his new home last Saturday and I am pleased to announce that things are going well. He lives about a half hour from me with two fabulous men who adore him. Rocky gets to be the center of attention with plenty of long walks and lots of playtime. He even gets to sleep in the bed now.
I'm never in a hurry to place a dog….the right home will eventually came along.....and this is Rocky's right home.
How wonderful!!!!! That is great to hear!!!
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AND come to our basenji meet-ups on Saturdays at 11am! Pinckneyville Park in Norcross. We'd love to see you there.
I also want to throw out there…. Pickneyville is fairly convenient for us, but I'm sure both YodelDogs & Maui live closer to other parks... so if y'all ever want us to swing over to your area to meet up at any good parks you find, we don't mind doing some driving, too.
Edit: I didn't mean to highjack this thread. Sorry.
