Awareness can only help….

[Quercus]

So, this is more of an auction situation than an actual PM bust?

Either way, best of luck to all involved.

[ELERICKSON40]

I would be curious to know where in Missouri this auction is being held because our Trixie came from Missouri (if the paperwork I have for her is correct) I do have the breeders info on these papers. Just kind of curious?! I would love to go to Missouri and get one of these poor B's but being in Florida would probably not be too close!

[Mantis]

from my knowledge that is limited in so many ways, this sounds like a puppy mill selling out to close or be shut down. I have no more information than what you see and am not the rescue coordinator by any means. When I hear more I will share it.

[tanza]

There are a number of auctions that go on all the time in the MidWest. It is either that a puppy miller is going out of business and selling everything and sometimes a bust… but I think if I remember from one of our BCOA and BRAT members, Jennifer that attends auctions when she can, most are from going out of business and some for "trading" stock... She has purchased many dogs from auctions (Basenjis) and helped get them placed.

Is this something new that BRAT is doing? Purchasing from Auctions?

[sharronhurlbut]

BRAT only tries to get b's from puppymills that are closing.
We try to get them out of the endless breeding cycle.
BUT going to a puppymill and buying a basenji just makes them seem
more desirable to the pm breeders.
So, those poor dogs are just stuck in he**.
Sigh.

[sharronhurlbut]

Sorry, I meant to add that not only are funds to bid for these dogs needed, but foster homes are as well.
Its tough as these dogs are so bent re the way we see our beloved pets, that it takes time for them to just get used to being inside, or the sounds of daily life, things like dishwashers, cooking dinner, just people talking or laughing.
Sometimes its takes months, sometimes they only make small improvements, and that is all you get, sometimes they bloom.
But oh, I think it so important to get them out of the puppymill breeding cycle.
Sigh.
If I was Queen of the World, all animals would be cared for and loved.

[tanza]

I know when Jennifer goes to an auction, she will not pay high dollars for a B.. and tries to get them in "buy a group" situation.. especially if there are pups, but she says those are the hardest to get… usually it is the "old" used up bitches or stud dogs that go cheap... and please do not get me wrong, I am not saying that they do not deserve a chance for a happy home... only stating facts as they have been told to me.

[sharronhurlbut]

Oh, yes, Jennifer does go and do what she can.
what a saint I start crying when I see the videos, I don't know how I couldn't "go postal" at the auctions.
The one saving grace for b's and usually they only go into season 1 a year.
These "so called" humans who use dogs this way, want the most bang for their buck.
I think any dog that can be taken from there, even if its just given a kind death, is better off than living in that he**.
Don't get me wrong, I know if we had more foster homes, Jennifer could probably save more.
One dog at a time…and change the laws re puppymills. Yes, education as well.
That is all we can do.

[lovemybaroo]

This video is absolutely gut-wrenching and it broke my heart :(. It just makes me sick to think this goes on everyday, and so much more often than we know about. That man should be shot. Dogs have been good to him, but he hasn't been good to them. The saddest part was the look in their eyes. Despite the absolute horror they are put through most of them still look like they are smiling and just want to be loved. This was very disturbing, but we all need to be aware. Thanks for posting.

[dmcarty]

You know - I asked Carrie Jones who did so much work with the big Kansas City Rescue what year it was. I was prompted to do so because, I noticed that there was a year when the number of registered basenjis dropped on the AKC site.

I wondered if there could be a relationship - I know that many people used folks on their waiting list to find homes for those rescues (myself included) I know that some people didn't breed because there was just too much saturation of rescues and without homes for the pups to go to - many of us don't breed. Of course there is also the resurgance of fake registries that also could have impacted AKC registration but, I've often felt torn in that rescuing - even though it helps that particular basenji - could have the unintended consequences of supporting puppy mills - if too many basenjis were languishing in shelters - there wouldn't be a market for the mills. If more of use that are reputable had homes for potential babies we would breed. So essentially the puppy mills keep producing because there is a market because reputable breeders are not.

Ouch - that much connecting makes my head hurt. Obviously not something that I can document but it was interesting for me - that's what happens when it's 17 below 0

[Mia]

ok I could only watch 33 sec of that video. If I watched the rest I would seriouly have to get my CSI skills hunt those people down and caged them up like the bad people they are! It is a society problem as alot of people see buying a dog as a fun activity to do that week! At least when you contact a breeder or a rescue agency you've most likely put some thought into it. I think pet stores are mostly impulsive purchases and should all be put out of busniess! Correct me if I am wrong but here in Orlando the only thing I have ever seen at a pet store are birds and smaller animlas such as rodents and snakes. I have never been able to go into a pet store who had puppies, because I would bring them all home!

[sharronhurlbut]

It makes me sad that good breeders aren't breeding and the puppymillers and byb are.
I don't know how we can do anything about byb but puppymillers can and should be shut down or regulated out of business.
I know folks don't want any more regulations, but this awful business needs something and that is all I can think of?
Any other suggestions to make it stop???

[lvoss]

It is not that people don't want to see puppymills regulated better, it is that legislators don't want to regulate puppymills because they bring in tax dollars for the states that have these large mills. So legislators propose legislation that will not effect puppymills at all and instead make it more difficult for responsible breeders to breed. Which will only decrease the supply of responsibly bred puppies and increase the pups born in these horrible mill conditions because there will still be demand for the puppies.

[lvoss]

Even though it is a slow process the only way to stop mills is to make it unprofitable for them. That means raising awareness and educating buyers so they will not buy a dog from petstores or the new virtual pets stores that are selling these mill dogs. If they mills can not sell their dogs then they will not breed.

[Mantis]

I still like the idea of a Scooby Doo steak out and steal! All of those Amish people and their pretzels!! By god, set the basenjis free!!

[tanza]

@Mantis:

I still like the idea of a Scooby Doo steak out and steal! All of those Amish people and their pretzels!! By god, set the basenjis free!!

It is not just the Amish that are in the Puppy Mill business… And Lisa is right.. the only way to stop puppy mills is to NOT support by NOT buying puppies from Pet Stores... And putting the pet stores out of business that are selling puppies.

[Mantis]

Ah, please dont take me seriously…..;)

[Mantis]

I like the Amish…..and their pretzels!!

[tanza]

@Mantis:

I like the Amish…..and their pretzels!!

Not a "dig" but just a reminder that needs to be said over and over… Do not support Puppy Mills, regardless of who is running them (and yes Amish are a big part of the puppy farm business)... by thinking that you are helping by purchasing a puppy from a pet store. While we would all love to "save" all these poor animals of any breed, buying them is not solving the problem.

[sharronhurlbut]

I did like the set the basenjis free part!
grin.

Really, I so wish we could set them all into good homes.