He's Arriving On Saturday!
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 16:46 last edited by
You should not be the one doing the health testing on that boy. His parents should have been tested before they were bred. There are also other health concerns in the breed that should have been tested for prior to breeding.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 16:49 last edited by
Is there a reason your partner didn't look at breeders within the state?
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 16:55 last edited by
I think, and I could be wrong here but the breeder came recommended to him, as a friend of ours also has a Basenji and I'm pretty sure their B also came from Oklahoma.
We are taking him to the vets anyways to have him checked out, better to be safe than sorry after all.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 17:02 last edited by
Most vets are not aware of the DNA test for Fanconi. It must be ordered from OFA, https://secure.offa.org/cart.html. Responsible breeders test prior to breeding so they do not produce Affected puppies.
Here are some articles about living Fanconi Affected dogs written by another forum member.
http://www.khanisbasenjis.com/LifewithaFanconiDog.pdf
http://www.khanisbasenjis.com/WhenFa…meHitsHome.pdf
http://www.khanisbasenjis.com/Breedi…niSyndrome.pdfWe are all so passionate about this issue because this disease is so heartbreaking and so preventable as long as the breeder is willing to pay $65 per dog before breeding to know their dog's status.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 17:05 last edited by
Congrats on your new addition. I hope you two/three have many, many years of happiness.
As far as crate training, you may want to consider training him to a different type of crate than the one he was transported in. For example, if he's shipped in a plastic crate, you may have an eaisier time training him to a wire crate. Just in case he has a bad association with the plastic one. Stay away from soft/cloth crates. They have short lives with young basenjis.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 17:08 last edited by
I know, I was looking into Falconi yesterday and its truly a horrible disease :(
I will be ordering the DNA test kit today.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 17:11 last edited by
agilebasenji, I was actually going to ask you guys about that as well, he wouldn't associate it with his flight and he would also not be able to chew his way out of it :D
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Welcome to the forum…
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 18:00 last edited by
Thanks Basenjimamma:D
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 18:58 last edited by
I thought DNA testing could only be done when they are close to 1 year, due to the amount of blood needed?
Oh and welcome to the forums!
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 19:10 last edited by
I thought DNA testing could only be done when they are close to 1 year, due to the amount of blood needed?
Oh and welcome to the forums!
The Fanconi test is done with a cheek swab and not done by blood draw. When Ruby had her pups they were done before 10wks old.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 19:12 last edited by
I thought DNA testing could only be done when they are close to 1 year, due to the amount of blood needed?
Oh and welcome to the forums!
Nope the marker test for Fanconi using blood can be done as early as six weeks old (or as soon as a puppy is big enough to withstand the blood draw)…but now it is done with saliva swab anyhow.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 19:13 last edited by
That is incorrect. The DNA test does not require blood anymore and even when it did puppies could safely be tested by 8 weeks. Puppies can now be tested at 3 weeks old, once they can be kept from nursing for at least 2 hours before testing.
My puppy L'Ox was tested at 3 weeks old and I have had his results for 2 weeks now, he is 6 weeks old. He is from a Carrier x Clear breeding so I wanted to know whether he was a Carrier or a Clear.
Of course, the age of puppy testing is fairly irrelevant as long as the breeder was responsible and tested both parents BEFORE breeding so NO Affected puppies are ever produced.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 19:44 last edited by
Blood needed?
I thought it was a swab to the cheek test?
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 19:47 last edited by
It is now a cheek swab test. When the test first came out, blood was required. It has been cheek swab ONLY for several months now.
What are you going to do if you puppy comes back as Probably Affected after you have already shipped him out to you?
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 19:51 last edited by
Myself and my partner will discuss that when and if it happens.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 19:58 last edited by
Why not look for a breeder that bred health tested parents so there is no need to have that discussion?
I really don't understand why you or anyone would support a breeder who cares so little for their animals they wouldn't spring for a $65 test to make sure they produced healthy puppies. I would really like someone, anyone to give me a reasonable explanation.
If you don't care about health, why not save a life and rescue a homeless basenji? Medfly Basenji Rescue has nearly 100 basenji needing homes because they came from breeders who didn't care for them either and so they got dumped in shelters when their owners didn't or couldn't keep them anymore.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 20:09 last edited by
I don't know Ivoss, I had nothing to do with the purchase.
But I am positive my partner would of done his research about the breeder, he is meticulous when it comes to research.
Who said I didn't care about health? I sure as hell didn't.
Do you "interrogate" every new member like this?
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 20:22 last edited by
Actually, if you go look at most new puppy threads, yes, I do. Fanconi is heartbreaking and 100% preventable. Your buying from a breeder who won't test only means you are supporting their decision and insuring future puppies will be bred with no testing.
If you are buying an untested puppy from untested parents then the only conclusion I can draw is that you don't care about health otherwise you would demand the test results prior to spending money.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2010, 20:27 last edited by
How many times do you I have to tell you.
I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PURCHASE.
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