@mika said in Suddenly not eating raw food.:
I wonder how stubborn are other basenji
Just about 99.99% of them
The fact that you let him be a "grazer" is the first clue, IMO… have set meal times... feed him and give him "X" number of minutes to eat... He eats or he doesn't... if he doesn't, you take it away till the next time to feed them. Unless they are sick.... they will not starve themselves.....
My OJ until he was 4 had horrible eating habits... sometimes he would eat, sometimes not... but I never varied in my approach... here is your meal.. you eat or wait till the next time... and I tried most of the time to never add things to try and get him to eat... you eat what everyone else eats... When he turned 4, whatever the reason.. he turned into a chow hound... before that he was always on the thin side.. but he was healthy
The fact that you let him be a "grazer" is the first clue, IMO… have set meal times... feed him and give him "X" number of minutes to eat... He eats or he doesn't... if he doesn't, you take it away till the next time to feed them. Unless they are sick.... they will not starve themselves.....
My OJ until he was 4 had horrible eating habits... sometimes he would eat, sometimes not... but I never varied in my approach... here is your meal.. you eat or wait till the next time... and I tried most of the time to never add things to try and get him to eat... you eat what everyone else eats... When he turned 4, whatever the reason.. he turned into a chow hound... before that he was always on the thin side.. but he was healthy
He's definitely healthy no doubt, I guess I'm just over concerned. We started to remove his dish and we're going to give him set feeding times. It's just weird, never had an issue till now. He just seems very dis-interested in dog food.
Unamused
Is he neutered? If not, sometimes if there is an inseason girl, the boys will go off their food. Otherwise it sounds like he's just holding out for better stuff. (In other words, he's doing a fine job of training you.)
Is he neutered? If not, sometimes if there is an inseason girl, the boys will go off their food. Otherwise it sounds like he's just holding out for better stuff. (In other words, he's doing a fine job of training you.)
He is Royalty :p that's probably what it is.
He is neutered He would have made some beautiful fur babies :p
Keep ya'll posted
Thanks for all the quick replies!
Mr. Skin and Bones
Can't add anything to the above except get a full vet check. If all is well, and you do the behavior things suggested, I would ask the vet for cyproheptadine. It is an antihistimine that works miracles. Sayblee was always casual about eating. She might suck something down one day, not care the next. But she got very thing finally and I reached the point of actually spoon feeding her and rubbing her throat. A friend suggested the cypro, vet said fine.. it was incredible. From the first dose, she suddenly had an appetite. About 2 yrs later when she got cancer, it was what kept her with us as long as she did because even with chemo she ate.
^^ Sorry for your loss, if you don't mind me asking what kind of cancer did Sayblee have?
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Do you mind if I ask what his current kibble is? Aside from EVO, the other brands you mentioned aren't generally well-rated brands – sorry if that makes me sound like a dog food snob! laugh But really, Baron may benefit from a brand with more higher quality ingredients and less filler.
I agree about structured eating time. And even if you have good kibble right now, you may want to continue shopping around for other brands of pet food, maybe try a different protein source (and transition gently so the change doesn't wreak havoc on Baron's digestive system). If you find the right one, it really can make a difference. I like Taste of the Wild, Natural Balance, and Canidae for good mid-price kibbles. Orijen, Acana, Before Grain, etc. are some more expensive (but not bank-breaking) brands you can look into. However, I don't think these are generally available in the chain stores like PetCo, PetSmart. In my area, I've been so pleasantly surprised by what I've found at the locally-owned pet stores (including prices!), that I almost never shop at chain petstores anymore.
And I also support the option of raw, if you want to run with it. We've done really well with Primal Raw, a pre-made frozen option, and other grocery store-purchased meats here and there.
Our B came to us eating a really low quality brand of kibble, and only grazed lightly, sometimes not finishing her food. Her previous owner said she was always like that... and part of her slowness may have been due to the transition process. But we didn't take long to transition her to better food, and we've had zero problem with her appetite since.
Also check out:
Dog Food Advisor, Dog Food Chat, and Dog Food Analysis for some good info on choosing a good kibble.
I do have some foods you can fix to help your basenji put on weight.
But the free feeding is probably part of the problem.
^^ Sorry for your loss, if you don't mind me asking what kind of cancer did Sayblee have?
Sayblee had lymphoma. However, she had some auto immune issue before that we treated for over a year and 3 surgeries. We did every chemo protocol, she crashed on all of them, even just steroids (4 different types). But we gave it our all for 5 mos.
Do you mind if I ask what his current kibble is? Aside from EVO, the other brands you mentioned aren't generally well-rated brands – sorry if that makes me sound like a dog food snob! laugh But really, Baron may benefit from a brand with more higher quality ingredients and less filler.
I agree about structured eating time. And even if you have good kibble right now, you may want to continue shopping around for other brands of pet food, maybe try a different protein source (and transition gently so the change doesn't wreak havoc on Baron's digestive system). If you find the right one, it really can make a difference. I like Taste of the Wild, Natural Balance, and Canidae for good mid-price kibbles. Orijen, Acana, Before Grain, etc. are some more expensive (but not bank-breaking) brands you can look into. However, I don't think these are generally available in the chain stores like PetCo, PetSmart. In my area, I've been so pleasantly surprised by what I've found at the locally-owned pet stores (including prices!), that I almost never shop at chain petstores anymore.
And I also support the option of raw, if you want to run with it. We've done really well with Primal Raw, a pre-made frozen option, and other grocery store-purchased meats here and there.
Our B came to us eating a really low quality brand of kibble, and only grazed lightly, sometimes not finishing her food. Her previous owner said she was always like that... and part of her slowness may have been due to the transition process. But we didn't take long to transition her to better food, and we've had zero problem with her appetite since.
Also check out:
Dog Food Advisor, Dog Food Chat, and Dog Food Analysis for some good info on choosing a good kibble.
I'm learning about all the different foods available, he never had a problem up until about three weeks ago, now he just seems very dis-interested in his food??
He's been picky from the get go with his dog food preference.
I have rotated and mixed 3 different foods to give him a little bit of variety, he has an appetite because he'll eat treats and people food, so I guess I just need to get him on a schedule, which I have started.
I do have some foods you can fix to help your basenji put on weight.
But the free feeding is probably part of the problem.
Sure what foods do you recommend?
Sayblee had lymphoma. However, she had some auto immune issue before that we treated for over a year and 3 surgeries. We did every chemo protocol, she crashed on all of them, even just steroids (4 different types). But we gave it our all for 5 mos.
That sucks, sorry for your loss. She definitely sounds like she didn't give up without a fight!
I have rotated and mixed 3 different foods to give him a little bit of variety, he has an appetite because he'll eat treats and people food, so I guess I just need to get him on a schedule, which I have started.
Hopefully this will help improve his appetite. And if the change is a more recent, noticeable development, it'll be worth ruling out some of the other medical conditions other folks have mentioned. Best wishes and let us know how it goes!
Since we have started him on a more structured feeding schedule he seems to be more interested in his food.
We have him on 100% EVO Red Meat small bites and his poo is solid
Thanks for all the recommendations!
-Phil
Like Baron, Ayo is always uninterested in HIS food.I have tried everything myself. Ive heard all the suggestions , he has fixed meal times, twenty minutes and it's gone, ive mixed up his food with rice, with pumpkin, with carrots, with eggs, Ayo eats well one meal and then doesnt eat for a few meals. and he used to keep his weight , he was 21 pounds but now he is down to 18 and I can't stand seeing him skinny. I am thinking of switching the kibble to something with momre fat in it instead of so much protein, he is getting eukanuba premium performance, we cant get the good organic foods here. He used to get eukanuba puppy small bites and kept a better weight.
He is always hungry though, he will eat anything he finds in a second it's just HIS food he doesn't care for.
Any advice on things I can add to his meals to make him gain some weight?
I truly would try cyproheptadine. Your dog is like Sayblee, she never cared even with the best of food and got very thin. It's cheap, it's safe and it is usually very effective.
this works for b's who are around bitches in heat…so you might want to try it.
SATIN BALLS
#10 of cheap hamburger meat
1 lg box of Total cereal (1 lb box in USA)
1 lg box of oatmeal (uncooked) (the 32 ounce in USA)
1 jar of wheat germ 10 eggs
1 1/4 c. veg oil
1 1/4 c. unflavored molasses
10 sm pks of unflavored gelatin
pinch of salt and garlic
mix all ingredients together well, much like a meatloaf... put into
separate freezer bags and freeze, thawing out as needed. I mixed it in
with kibble. Make "meat"
balls (golf ball sized) and mix with food as well.
Do not cook.
Thanks im at thegrocery store right now buying all the ingredients. I'm taking him to the vet tomorrow morning anyway to get a blood test and urinalysis, iml worried because he is very skinny and I think he is loosing weight!!!
All right, I made the recipe,… Not sure about all the proportions because I didn't make so much and I wasn't sure how much #10 of cheap hamburger meat was or a jar of wheat germ , cause it came in a bag here, but, I more or less mixed it up into a thick paste.
he loved it!!! He ate almost two full cups I don't want to give him more for now, just because I don't think he has ever eaten two cups of anything!!! I ink I put al little too much molasses because it smells mostly of molasses.
Anyway, thanks for the recipe I hope it will help him put some weight on. Tomorrow I am going to the vet to chuckle his blood and urine, hopefully everything is fine!!!