@KhaiPan Pam and I are both stubborn opinionated people and without mutual respect, we'd be in constant battle. Instead, I love her. I watch her utter devotion to the dogs, to doing things right, to helping anyone who needs help. She isn't stuck in any idea... given proof and research, she'll reconsider. She is calming. 🙂 Knowing you have someone personally in your corner navigating this helps a lot. Glad you contacted her.
My poor boy . . .
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Jerry, Dana and Heidi, i am very sorry to hear about your loss of Skeeter.
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So sorry to hear about your loss, but thank you for helping Skeeter over the Rainbow Bridge to be with all those that have gone before him… You did the right thing for him, which is never the easiest thing for us.
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My heart goes out to you. At least you know that Skeeter is no longer suffering. Your vet is very considerate in allowing Heid to say goodbye.
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Oh poor you! I am sad to read this. Skeeter has a wonderful, loved life. The right thing to do isn't always the easy thing to do. I'm so sorry.
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I have cried the whole way through this thread. My heart really goes out to you.
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I'm so sorry for your loss. Skeeter loves you for all you did for him, including his final time with you and your unconditional love that let you help him pass peacefully, and painlessly. May your happy memories soon replace your deep sorrow. My prayers to you in your time of grief.
Dawn
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I'm sorry for your loss Jerry and Dana. You tried your best to do everything you could to save Skeeter and he thanks you for that.
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I am so sorry. You did everything you possibly could to help him, including helping end his suffering. Hugs to you all.
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Dana and I are were quite surprised by the amount of replies to our ongoing thread concerning Skeeter's final days and it certainly was nice to see the support from the Forum crowd. We weren't sure if we did things the best way for poor Skeeter, but looking back now, we're not sure what we would have done any differently. We took Skeeter's last collar and framing it with his birth papers.
He's been gone a month now and we've turned all our attention to Heidi and how's she's getting along. She no longer has a mate to chase around the house and yard, so she does seem a bit sad. We're not sure what to do? Do we get her a new mate or what? She is 9 years old now and in very good health. We hate to run out to replace Skeeter, since he can't be replaced. But, we do want to do what's right for Heidi. Actually during this month see has gotten better, so things will probably be OK in the long run. We took her to Pete and Mac?s pet resort, for a couple days of doggie day care and she seemed to like that.
Just looking for feedback . . . any suggestions would be appreciated. If we decided to look for a new mate, should we look at BRAT? And how old. Dana said she would rather not start with a new pup, but not sure what to do? I was going to ask if getting another Basenji is the best choice, but asking this crowd, would probably be a bit prejudice, ha. Of course that?s what we would prefer. And is getting a male the best choice? We had a good set-up before. Heidi was definitely in charge and Skeeter had no problem with that. How can we make sure a new mate and Heidi would get along?
So, that's it, can't think of any other questions. I look forward to any advice. When you become a Basenji owner, you become part of a select group of dog owners and I can't think of a better group to be part of, thanks
Jerry & Dana & Heidi . . . in KC
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If you decide to get a second b. I would suggest getting one close to Heidi's age, or just a few years younger.
BRAT does have some wonderful b's, and we would want your b to meet the new boy, to make sure SHE likes him.
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I vote for a partner, and BRAT certainly has some nice adults. I don't take any dog under 2 years, I love a nice adult with lots of energy, but not the puppy crazies.
You can't replace Skeeter, but you can give a good life to a dog in need, in Skeeter's honor. Good luck!
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Do let us know what you decide…we sure want good thing to happen to you.
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i also vote for getting another boy basenji. Personally I think getting a dog every 5 years works beautifully (for the dogs and for performance reasons), so I'd suggest a boy in the 4-5 year old range. give or take a little. BRAT has lots of nice dogs or you may want to call Linda E, or another good breeder, and see if they have any retired show dogs or boomarang (returned pups) that are looking for home.
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Earlier this year, my wife and I decided that Heidi seemed awful sad without a mate, since Skeeter passed away last year. So, we started looking at BRAT boys that were available. But everyone we seemed to like was turned down by BRAT, because Heidi was 10 and we were trying for boys that were 4 or 5 or 6. We had found one in the next state, but we were told "Sorry he's too young"
Then BRAT contacted us with a boy that was 9 years old down in Dallas. His name was MAX and he wasn't even listed with the normal web page on the BRAT website. That was a problem for me not actually seeing him displayed with all his information. We just got a few emails describing him and before you know it, we were driving South to meet another transporter driving up from Dallas.
So we picked up MAX and brought him home. I had assumed with MAX would be paperwork telling us more about him. What we got, told us almost nothing. A few receipts from Animal hospitals all within the last few months. So I emailed the BRAT Coordinator and asked where the information that would have been listed on the website concerning his birthdate etc. She told me they didn't have anything and finding us to take him saved her having to create something for the website. So, this was a bad start for MAX and I felt we were a convenient place to dump him.
But, we are loving people and thought we would make the best of it. He was totaling house broken, so the biggest issue in the beginning was not a problem. However, Heidi did not seem to accept him and he didn't seem to care at all. After a while Heidi tried to get closer to him, but he never seemed to respond. To make a long story short, after six month we have to keep these two dogs separated, because they were getting into daily very serious fights. and when I say serious, it?s very deep growling, blood drawing (sometimes) fights that have them apart unless we are together with them. We have a very large back yard and he never goes out on his own and basically is not the dog we were briefly described in the Coordinators emails.
So anyway, we have to change something and I really don't know what to do? We?re not people that will turn their backs on a basenji, but we certainly can't abandon Heidi, our first born. I have heard,, you give up you BRAT adoption fee and we understand that, but this poor boy has probably been bounced around all his life and he's almost 10. Please someone give us some advice . . . thanks
Jerry & Dana in Kansas City
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How sad. For everyone involved.
Have you tried contacting your BRAT co-ordinator? Or a behaviorist might help.
Sometimes dogs just don't get along even if you've done everything right.
I really wish I had some sort of magical advice and could make it all better.
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But everyone we seemed to like was turned down by BRAT, because Heidi was 10 and we were trying for boys that were 4 or 5 or 6. We had found one in the next state, but we were told "Sorry he's too young"
I really don't understand BRAT's attitude on this. In my experience it is easier to integrate two dogs with an age separation than two that are close in age. I got a two year old male (not from BRAT) to keep my nine year old girl company after I lost her 16 year old female companion. It wasn't "love at first sight", but they tolerated each other and grew to have a friendly relationship.
I agree with you that your first dog is your primary responsibility. I hope you can find something that works out for you, as it doesn't sound like the current situation is improving. Best scenario is probably to re home Max. Heidi may be so happy to see him go she won't be looking for a new companion!
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I am so sorry you had this sad issue with BRAT. I would contact the coordinator in your state. They will help you. Please, let me know if I can be of any assistance.
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Please remember that there are always two sides to every story.
debbi j.
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Let me see if I get this right. You took a dog prior to it being listed (and btw, BRAT does not, nor do most rescues, list EVERY DOG– some they get applicants in that seem a good fit and if it works, why list? Hell, CA rescue rarely has ANY of their dogs listed but they place plenty.), you drive down to GET the dog with minimal info, and then are mad they don't have more info for you? Was there some reason you took a dog when you felt you only wanted it with more info? In reality, many rescues have pretty minimal info, btw. The coordinator said they didn't HAVE any more info. CREATED didn't mean she would get a psychic to discover his past, it meant simply create a page with the info they HAVE and what they have observed. You know that right? So you actually GOT what info they had.
Then, you started having problems. Did you notify BRAT IMMEDIATELY for help? You do know they would have helped, worked with you and perhaps helped PREVENT the situation from escalating to the level it is now, right? So, when DID you contact BRAT, or have you even YET contacted them before smearing them on a public board? Because honestly, I can't imagine they wouldn't have speedily done whatever you wanted, whether it was take the dog back or help you.
Instead, it seems YOU let 2 dogs escalate to this, then try to blame it on BRAT for not giving you more information? I mean, no where do I see the 2 dogs issues being a BRAT issue. Any 2 dogs on earth can not mix. Any 2 dogs. That is a reality you do realize right? SO unless you think this dog was aggressive to other animals and BRAT hid it or lied, please explain to me how this is BRAT's problem. Especially since you didn't contact them immediately when problems began to help work things out. You didn't come on the board even for help on how to manage it. Nope– lets wait til the 2 dogs hate each other, little to no chance of ever getting them back together, and blame it on BRAT not having him on a web page before you took him. Okay then.
Then, let me ask what was in the original info that would make you think ANY DOG likes to go out in a backyard alone? Please educate me to what misinformation you were given to indicate that? Because you have clearly said BRAT mislead you and I'd like to know precisely how.
Also, let me be honest. When you first started this thread last year and suggested confining your BLIND SICK DOG to living OUTSIDE because of leaking urine, I decided to keep out of it and left the thread. I was so horrified that you even considered it, I felt sick.
Do this dog a favor. Pick up the phone or email the coordinator, explain you feel duped and want the dog picked up immediately, and let them put it in a home that will call them, get help when needed instead of bad mouthing BRAT and accusing them of making up things, dumping a dog and duping them. You asked for advice. That's mine.
Then BRAT contacted us with a boy that was 9 years old down in Dallas. His name was MAX and he wasn't even listed with the normal web page on the BRAT website. That was a problem for me not actually seeing him displayed with all his information.
So we picked up MAX and brought him home. I had assumed with MAX would be paperwork telling us more about him. What we got, told us almost nothing. A few receipts from Animal hospitals all within the last few months. So I emailed the BRAT Coordinator and asked where the information that would have been listed on the website concerning his birthdate etc. She told me they didn't have anything and finding us to take him saved her having to create something for the website. So, this was a bad start for MAX and I felt we were a convenient place to dump him.
But, we are loving people and thought we would make the best of it. … However, Heidi did not seem to accept him and he didn't seem to care at all. After a while Heidi tried to get closer to him, but he never seemed to respond. To make a long story short, after six month we have to keep these two dogs separated, because they were getting into daily very serious fights. and when I say serious, it?s very deep growling, blood drawing (sometimes) fights that have them apart unless we are together with them. We have a very large back yard and he never goes out on his own and basically is not the dog we were briefly described in the Coordinators emails.
..I have heard,, you give up you BRAT adoption fee and we understand that, but this poor boy has probably been bounced around all his life and he's almost 10.
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Oh dear, judgmental much?
From my point of view, there was some serious miscommunication at the start of all this. Unfortunate for all involved, but at this point irrelevant, as a solution that works for everyone is now paramount. (and hopefully attainable). I concur that contacting BRAT and trying to work something out is the best approach. Fingers crossed you come to a good solution for both humans and Basenjis.
