Can't wait to pick up my new pup.
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replied to jdhunt0 on 9 Jul 2018, 02:36 last edited by DonC 7 Sept 2018, 02:38
@jdhunt0 said in Can't wait to pick up my new pup.:
I went to see Odin today. The mother is AKC registered. The father is CKC, but was told both of his parents were AKC. The breeder is going to get the information to me. The parents have not been tested for Fanconi, but both of their parents were. I realize this may not be the "right" way to get a Basenji, but it is local, the breeder seems fairly knowledgeable, and loves her dogs. Plus the price is quite a bit less than what the going rate is it seems.
So you picked "Odin" for his name! Seems kinda Scandinavian but definitely fun. If all the grandparents were tested then that wouldn't be a big deal for me. YMMV. Loving their dogs, on the other hand, would be a big deal for me. There are so many things a breeder can/should be doing with the pups, and if they love their dogs there is a better chance of this happening. Again, IMO.
The price on the other hand raises some issues. For starters, I think pet owners focus way too much on the acquisition price. Over the course of the dog's life most will end up spending so much -- including replacing the carpets that get chewed -- that the initial price won't be consequential. Moreover, it costs a lot of money to breed and raise pups. My view is that if you want responsible people to breed you should pay more.
That said, plenty of great breeders sell their pups for less than a thousand dollars. Some for much less. In some cases it's just that they've been doing this for a long time and haven't raised their prices consistent with price increases. Others are more concerned with their dogs and aren't as focused on the money as they are on good placements. (Breeding dogs reminds me of Richard Branson's joke about how to become a millionaire -- start with a billion dollars and buy and airline.) The net result is that puppies are definitely not one of those things you can judge on the basis of price.
Hope Odin turns out to be as great a dog for you as he is cute, because he's plenty cute.
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replied to jdhunt0 on 15 Jul 2018, 23:00 last edited by
@jdhunt0 said in Can't wait to pick up my new pup.:
I went to see Odin today.
Do we have a "Viking's" fan in our midst? <3 that show!
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wrote on 31 Jul 2018, 18:12 last edited by jdhunt0This post is deleted!
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wrote on 31 Jul 2018, 18:23 last edited by
I picked him up on Sunday. Little Miss Sunshrine is the mother. The father is only registered in the CKC.
He seems healthy and happy. I have an appointment with a vet to get a complete checkup though to so make sure.
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replied to jdhunt0 on 31 Jul 2018, 20:11 last edited by tanza
@jdhunt0 - Vets do not do the DNA testing for Fanconi or PRA. You order the cheek swab from www.offa.org, swab the cheek and then send it back to OFA to be processed.
https://www.ofa.org/diseases/dna-tested-diseases/fanconi-syndrome
https://www.ofa.org/diseases/dna-tested-diseases/basenji-praNo testing done on the dam. Go to http://www.pedigrees.zandebasenjis.com/
Enter Dam's name and you will find the pedigree for her. Her parents were not tested either as they would show up on the pedigree page. And they do not show up on the OFA site under their registration numbers. All Fanconi and PRA test are made public on the OFA site -
wrote on 1 Aug 2018, 00:06 last edited by
Please pay attention to Pat @ Tanza. You NEED to have the testing done. If the results come back say that he is likely to be affected by Fanconi you have to take this dog back or you will ultimately go through the heartache of dealing with the health of a dog that needs medication, special diet, along with lots of your time and patience beyond the norm.
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replied to senjisilly on 1 Aug 2018, 16:23 last edited by
If the results come back say that he is likely to be affected by Fanconi <<
The Fanconi test gives "Clear/Normal," "Carrier," or "Affected."
Affected means both genes, so they either are or they aren't "Affected." I honestly don't know what percent of Affected go on to develop Fanconi, though I presume all.
If it is affected, then sadly I agree.. While Pam Hamilton has kept some fairly symptom free for years, it's not something I would willingly sign on for. :(
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wrote on 2 Aug 2018, 20:05 last edited by
DNA tests are ordered.
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replied to DebraDownSouth on 3 Aug 2018, 21:38 last edited by
@debradownsouth My editing of my post was terrible. Thank you for clarifying what I meant to say. I did have a female that tested "probably affected" in the early testing. She was bred to a clear (later most accurate test) and produced 3 pups who were all carriers (again, the latest most accurate test). While I found it necessary to put her to sleep at age 14.5 (seizures related to brain damage from being hit by a car) she never developed Fanconi or any symptoms of it. None of the pups were bred for various reasons (development, temperament) although one did become a lure coursing champion.
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replied to senjisilly on 4 Aug 2018, 17:21 last edited by
@senjisilly said in Can't wait to pick up my new pup.:
@debradownsouth My editing of my post was terrible. Thank you for clarifying what I meant to say. I did have a female that tested "probably affected" in the early testing. She was bred to a clear (later most accurate test) and produced 3 pups who were all carriers (again, the latest most accurate test). While I found it necessary to put her to sleep at age 14.5 (seizures related to brain damage from being hit by a car) she never developed Fanconi or any symptoms of it. None of the pups were bred for various reasons (development, temperament) although one did become a lure coursing champion.
My posts are sometimes incoherent, lol. You did fine, I just wanted people to not be confused that a carrier could develop Fanconi.
Breeding even an affected to a clear wouldn't have produced affected. Before the test, no one had a choice but to go with what was there. Responsible people like you didn't use the excuse of it not being "perfect" and did the best available. Making it to that age is wonderful, especially with her brain damage.
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wrote on 4 Aug 2018, 21:32 last edited by
understand that many times seizures are a part of Kidney disease including fanconi.
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wrote on 21 Aug 2018, 18:02 last edited by
They now have the tests. Patiently waiting for the results.
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replied to jdhunt0 on 21 Aug 2018, 22:33 last edited by
@jdhunt0 said in Can't wait to pick up my new pup.:
They now have the tests. Patiently waiting for the results.
Waiting is the worse. Hoping for the best results.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2018, 00:52 last edited by
Results: Clear/Normal for Fanconi Syndrome
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replied to jdhunt0 on 23 Aug 2018, 13:37 last edited by
@jdhunt0 said in Can't wait to pick up my new pup.:
Results: Clear/Normal for Fanconi Syndrome
EXCELLENT!
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wrote on 23 Aug 2018, 18:03 last edited by
WOHOOO! That is wonderful. :)
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replied to jdhunt0 on 31 Aug 2018, 05:13 last edited by
@jdhunt0 said in Can't wait to pick up my new pup.:
Results: Clear/Normal for Fanconi Syndrome
That is great to hear. He is a very cute little guy, doubtless a little bundle of joy and occassionally despair! It's always amazing how many things they can get into at this age.
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wrote on 1 Sept 2018, 01:59 last edited by
PRA-BJ1 is clear too! I need to get some newer pictures. He is growing fast.
