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[misspodhradsky]

@YodelDogs:

One thing to keep in mind is that show homes are few and far between. Serious exhibitors already have their own animals or get new pups from other serious exhibitors. Miah's breeder and the stud owner may be able to help you put a pup or two in show homes but it's best not to count on it. Be careful of novices who say they want a show dog. There are a lot of dishonest people who will use that ploy to get their hands on an intact dog with full registration. They just want it for breeding and have no intention of following through with showing. Protect your reputation and the reputation of Miah's breeder and the stud owner by being careful not to let pups get into situations like that.

That is very good advice Robyn. Thanks! Ill be sure to be careful. We already have 3 show homes for the puppies so its unlikely we will have anymore than that. Sanda and I are keeping back a couple show home puppies so most likely we will have all pet puppies left. but if the right person comes along, i may allow them a show puppy. but i require co ownerships until the puppy is a finished champion so things like that cannot happen–usually. Thanks so much for the heads up tho. Its always nice to get good advice before you make the wrong decisions. I also require i be the Microchip Alternate contact person so if the owner wont get her/him, then i can.

[Nemo]

Having a co-ownership on a dog will not stop an unscrupulous person from breeding a dog they get from you. It does not give you that much leverage.

And also I would like to mention that if someone wants to do performance with their dogs, having a conformationally "correct" dog with good structure is important too. They would likely fit in the "show potential" category for choosing dogs. But in that case, the dogs don't need to be intact.

[tanza]

Agree Nemo…. only in the case of a bitch do both (all) owners/co-owners have to sign litter papers.

[misspodhradsky]

@Nemo:

Having a co-ownership on a dog will not stop an unscrupulous person from breeding a dog they get from you. It does not give you that much leverage.

And also I would like to mention that if someone wants to do performance with their dogs, having a conformationally "correct" dog with good structure is important too. They would likely fit in the "show potential" category for choosing dogs. But in that case, the dogs don't need to be intact.

This is true. but at least they wont be able to register them without your permission since you have to sign off on them, isnt that correct? but its true, co ownerships are not bullet proof

Yes that is true too. i like performance events with my dogs. I plan to be active in that and the ring. makes it more fun. but its nice that they dont have to be intact for that.

[misspodhradsky]

@tanza:

Agree Nemo…. only in the case of a bitch do both (all) owners/co-owners have to sign litter papers.

didnt realize you wrote this until i posted my response. So good, it is true lol :)i thought so

[Nemo]

But isn't that just the case if they want to do AKC registration? If they decide to do Continental KC or any of the other sham registries, can't they still get away with it and sell the puppies?

[Nemo]

Of course they don't have to register them at all to sell puppies.

[lvoss]

Co-ownership will not stop unscrupulous breeding and does not stop puppies from a male dogs from being registered with AKC and in all honesty is only limited protection with females because the co-owner can petition AKC to register the litter without the other owner's signature. It is one reason that AKC doesn't really want co-ownerships. They don't want to get involved in disputes between co-owners.

[misspodhradsky]

wow. that seems really messed up. Cant the contract do anything about it? I mean cant you take someone to court if they void the contract?? interesting to learn these things.

[misspodhradsky]

@Nemo:

Of course they don't have to register them at all to sell puppies.

thats for sure