FINALLY got my Basenji BUT…


  • Yes, hand feeding means that all of his food comes directly from your hand. It doesn't have to be one kibble at time he is not eating from a bowl. You can use meals to reward good behavior or during a training session.


  • @agilebasenji:

    You may want to take him to a positive training class. There are many, many fun things available in dogsports right now - agility, rally, nosework, tracking, flyball, free style, etc.

    Where and how would I find these classes in Vancouver? We're starting his obedience classes Tuesday but I would love to join something like this he may enjoy more but no idea where to find them. I just googled it and not having much luck

    I will try hand feeding tonight


  • Not sure about where you are, but when I am looking for classes I started by googling for dog trainers in my area. I also talked to people at the local humane society, and looked up our local kennel club.

    The place I go to for my obedience classes is also a doggy day care and offers some for fun type classes as well.


  • @weitzel:

    Where and how would I find these classes in Vancouver? We're starting his obedience classes Tuesday but I would love to join something like this he may enjoy more but no idea where to find them. I just googled it and not having much luck

    I will try hand feeding tonight

    Try looking for dog training places, NOT big box shop training stuff.

    examples
    this place has an intro to clicker class
    http://dizinecanine.com/classes

    this has a canine good citizen class
    http://www.hnk9.com/group.html

    this some agility: (but normally you'll need an obedience or pre-agility class first) and a Sdao seminar class coming up and check out the training tips link!
    http://www.dogsmart.ca/programs.html

    this one also has agility/obedience
    http://www.balancedcanine.ca/dog_training_classes.cfm

    You will want to get a few possibilities and go watch a class with the trainer you'll be taking classes from. See if it seems like a good fit. Listen to your gut. If the trainer is telling people how to jerk the leash, you can cross that off your list! Here's some tips on finding an agility class (or any sort of training class)

    https://www.basenji.org/BasenjiU/Activities/Agility/Find/AClass.html

    Anyway , that's a start for ya.


  • I should say i just googled those links and I don't know anything about the individual places.


  • @weitzel:

    Can someone explain to me what exactly hand feeding is? He still has to have his dinner so is it literally him eating it from my hand?

    Yup, that's exactly what it is. Giving him other stuff besides dinner from your hand is also good - treats, veggies that he may like, etc.


  • Amber Cottle runs a great training school in Delta - offers classes, individual private lessons and doggie daycare. She is promoted by many veterinarians in the Tsawwassen, Ladner, Delta area.

    http://ambercottle.com/

    Kipawa took his puppy classes there. We were very happy with the basics that were taught and will be looking at other classes, maybe agility. I tried another dog training facility in Vancouver (DogSmart) but was not impressed as the training was not based on positive reinforcement. After 2 sessions we left the class. The owner/head trainer locked a dog in a dark closet for barking. One dog got mouthy (teeth on flesh, but not biting) with an owner and the trainer yelled at it SUPER loud (startled the dogs AND the people), grabbed a leash, put it on the dog and threw the dog outside and closed the door (the leash was around the inside door knob). This was in just ONE class, our second class. I didn't even ask for a refund. Seriously, I was so disgusted I did not want to waste my energy dealing with them.


  • You can find Nosework Instructors by going to the North American Canine Scent Work website, http://www.nacsw.net

    Also, though there are only a couple right now in BC, many new people are getting trained in this fun new sport, but I would make sure you go to someone who is an ANWI, CNWI, or at the very least enrolled in the Instructors in Training Program. The philosophy of the organization is a big part of why this sport is so good for all dogs.


  • How's the bonding going?


  • A couple of quick suggestions on bonding with your Basenji.

    First thing I would do if you are up to it is take him for a long walk. By long walk I mean a couple of miles. This is a wonderful time to bond because you have the alone time together, you are going new places with new smells, and migration is something that is natural. In a lot of ways walking as a pack be it you and the dog, or you, your boyfriend and the dog, you are forming a pack.

    The second thing I would do is allow this dog some lap time. My basenjis really like their lap time and the special pets and attention that they get. I found once I let them take a nap in my lap they bonded with me pretty quickly.

    Since this basenji has only been with your three days, if you have an old tshirt that you are willing to give up, wear it around the house for the day and then put it in his crate. What you are doing is getting him comfortable with your scent. This will also help you bond quickly.

    Yes you can feed your Basenji from your hand, but I think you are better off finding a special treat. If he does not already know, teach him to sit and when he does treat him. If you repeat this a couple of time and treat him, he will also start to bond with you and appreciate the treat more. Dogs do love to please their owners. Basenji's might be independent, but they are still dogs.


  • okay thank you everyone

    The bonding is going well… I taught (reminded) him how to sit, shake a paw and lie down. We're in obedience classes currently so he's catching on to "stay" and sits before I give him his meal. Walking is still not the greatest but better. He IS a snuggler! But the thing now is he clearly doesn't like being disturbed while sleeping or sleepy. He fell asleep on my lap and I went to scratch my leg and he growled and went to bite me, mouthed but not a full on bite, I still felt his teeth though. I was completely caught off guard so this seems to be the issue now. Clearly there is a dominance struggle going on right now as his growling is very much increasing, and it's almost been a month having him


  • The issues isn't alpha… as the others pointed out it is bonding time, feeding, letting in and out.

    That said, sometimes it won't matter. The heart does what the heart does. I do full care of Cara, but when my college student is home, it is clear beyond any doubt that she is her person. Utterly, totally her dog. No it isn't novelty cause it's the same over long breaks and summer. My daughter is currently studying in France and Cara CRIES for her on skype.

    As for the last post... please I am begging you let go of the dominance/alpha etc thinking. It is old, outdated and has done more damage to relationships and training than any other concept.

    The old adage "let sleeping dogs lie" is not for nothing. SOME DOGS HATE BEING WOKE UP. You need to call his name FIRST, rouse him before you actually move him. He has been there a month... guess what? Honeymoon is over. Fortunately you are already laying great groundwork with training. And while putting teeth on you is not ever okay, that there was no real bite tells you that the dog was simply showing displeasure, not intending to harm. I would suggest that you write more about what is going on when he growls, or if it only when awoken. Basically when a dog growls I tell them NO GROWL and totally ignore in many situations. Others take more effort, like if the growl is to threaten/bully to not comply. It really depends on what is going on.


  • Total newbie here as Loki is our first B. He bonded with my husband immediately, but then again I insisted on having my husband be the one doing all the cuddling and holding the weekend we brought him home as I knew come Monday he'd be gone for 12 hrs a day and I had all day to be with the puppy. Once we started Puppy Pre-K we switched to completely hand feeding and using his meals for training purposes. As I am the one home, I do the majority of feeding and training and he bonded to me very well. I wouldn't say he's bonded to either of us more than the other, they are just different bonds. My husband is the one who chases him in the backyard for an hour and really rough-houses with him. I play, feed, train, cuddle, take places, etc., mainly because I am here more often. He is still mainly hand fed except for when he gets a raw bone or the rare occasion I use his busy buddy. And we've also begun using treats during his training, which is good as he no longer really cares for his food and we're switching him to something else.

    I will say that before Pre-K and the hand feeding that I was beginning to have issues with him growling and trying to bite when I would stop him from doing something he shouldn't be doing. I haven't had that problem since I began hand feeding and doing multiple short training sessions per day. I know the next dog we get, be it B or not, who will probably be a rescue, I will definitely begin hand feeding to help get that bond started.


  • @DebraDownSouth:

    The issues isn't alpha… as the others pointed out it is bonding time, feeding, letting in and out.

    That said, sometimes it won't matter. The heart does what the heart does. I do full care of Cara, but when my college student is home, it is clear beyond any doubt that she is her person. Utterly, totally her dog. No it isn't novelty cause it's the same over long breaks and summer. My daughter is currently studying in France and Cara CRIES for her on skype.

    As for the last post... please I am begging you let go of the dominance/alpha etc thinking. It is old, outdated and has done more damage to relationships and training than any other concept.

    The old adage "let sleeping dogs lie" is not for nothing. SOME DOGS HATE BEING WOKE UP. You need to call his name FIRST, rouse him before you actually move him. He has been there a month... guess what? Honeymoon is over. Fortunately you are already laying great groundwork with training. And while putting teeth on you is not ever okay, that there was no real bite tells you that the dog was simply showing displeasure, not intending to harm. I would suggest that you write more about what is going on when he growls, or if it only when awoken. Basically when a dog growls I tell them NO GROWL and totally ignore in many situations. Others take more effort, like if the growl is to threaten/bully to not comply. It really depends on what is going on.

    Debra, good advice. Ever try to wake a sleeping husband? 🙂 I've DEFINITELY heard growls from Darrel!

    Weitzel, Kipawa growls as well when he is in a deep sleep. I do what Debra has mentioned - I talk to him first, not loud at all, almost a whisper. Then I work up to my normal volume voice. By then he is cracking his eyes open. When his eyes are fully open, I start to softly rub my hand down his back. I continue to talk to him until I can see he's pretty much awake. We also use 'no growl' and try to make as little commotion about the growl as possible.

    Clearly Maverick loves his sleeping. And loves being on your lap. 🙂 While he is on your lap, before he gets to sleep, maybe try just petting him/massaging him lightly. Kipawa will let me do that until my arm gets tired.

    So glad that it's all going well!


  • I take naps with my dog all the time and he is a biter. I have learned as Debra suggested, before getting up or moving, gently talk to him and tell them what you're doing. We have been incident free for several years now (him sleeping & attacking). It also helps to cuddle / rub him while he sleeps so he knows you are there. Never make them move if they are sleeping somewhere, without a positive reward.

    I know a guy who owned a basenji & decided to surprise him by saying Peekaboo really loud. The dog attacked him & he got 9 stitches on his face. Basenjis do not like surprises.


  • @Barklessdog:

    Basenjis do not like surprises.

    Very true!

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