Sorry about the delay in getting back to this thread, I am at an agility trial in NM. Excuse the all in one response - it's easier doing it this way via my iPhone.
Yes, Debra - shame on me for not sharing the names of breeders on this forum who are breeding or have bred but not doing as much public testing as some feel they should - esp when there are/where known issues behind the dogs being bred and/or they are foundation stock. Sorry - I do not feel it is my job to out them. This info is easy enough to research via OFA.
Yes, Pat you and a few others certainly do jump in and question "breeders" via this forum - granted they are mostly unknown backyard breeders in which the poor unsuspecting pet owners get an earful for not being more discerning in their choices vs actually confronting the breeders head on. Oh wait very few if any are on this forum or if they are, are brave enough to post.
As for Marie getting kicked off this list and unable to reply - all the more reason to continue to discuss her as though she does not exist, right? Wrong.
IMO she had every reason to defend herself as she did. And actually Debra - Marie has been pretty open/honest about her mental health issues, so I imagine she would be the first to admit she was in a bad state of mind when much of this went down.
Did not seem to stop folks from continuing their negativity against her even knowing this.
Thankfully she is on a good treatment protocol and is amazingly in a good state of mind, so much so that she was asked to join the BCOA Health & Research Committee this year. She has been a real asset and real team player even before being asked to join.
Absolutely Sharron, the Ntomba imports and importers have gone above and beyond testing IMO, much like many of the Avongara importers. I have had nothing but positives to say about the Ntomba imports as I have said on several occasions.
Since Marie is not on this forum to be able to reply and she is the best person anyone should be getting their facts from and not via a forum - I suggest anyone interested to contact her. Or first - visit this link to learn more then contact her if interested:
As for why Kathy posted these pics - a) who cares b) whose business is it why anyone posts anything c) why the implication (and third degree) there is any ulterior motives other than she likes what she saw then and now and wanted to share.
Seems crooked people see crooked things, even when the line is straight. Does not mean the line isn't straight.