Butu's very quiet, but the other day, we were walking past the church and a lady came out unexpectedly. Well, whatever my boy is, he's not a stoic, so he screamed. Wow, did she jump! I apologised but mentioned, to be fair, that Butu had been startled too. Got one of the nastiest looks I've evr seen 😉
It's time!
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However, you need to know that with neutering, the hormones to not stop overnight… and still many males will hump... as it is not only sex that they are thinking of.. but Dominance... it will not cure Dominance problems.
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Thank you, Tanza - yes, I do know this. Butu has been humping my teddy bear slippers since he was a very tiny boy, but not normally any sort of dog (apart from a male Basset called Henry that started it…) until Sunday, when he tried with the Border Terrier girl. Butu doesn't have any Dominance issues - it is definitely only intact males. There were a lot around on Sunday. We enter in Companion Dog Shows, and this was one, but there were loads of Show Dogs around, all intact, obviously. And I am aware that the hormones will still be raging for a while - any one like to give me an estimate how long? I am presuming at least a month?
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I suggest taking home made baked goods with Butu to the vet's. Because, bribes are often appreciated and it'll give you something to do and you'll feel productive.
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Good idea, agilebasenji, but I don't think I'll have time tomorrow. However, there is a very nice bakery on the way to the vets, so may well pop in to get them a 'Please Look After My Boy' gift!
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yes I often do baked goods when my kidz have surgery. I say "Here's my dog and here's a bribe!" I did Millionaires Shortbread a while back and warned them not to overdose/sugar high before my dog's surgery.
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I was worried as well, I wanted to wait until Oakley was two but at 11 months I just couldn't take the drive and hormones and persistence. He did very well, they called early begging me to rush there to pooch him up because he wa balling and screaming for me. I got him home, he plopped in his bed and cried a little, but he fell asleep with me next to him for comfort. As stated with others, know that the hormones take a month or do to dwindle and in Oakleys case ( and others I know) there can be a surge before the dwindle. Oakley is so much better off and there's peace in our home…I felt bad at first that I couldn't hold off longer but now I'm confident I made the right decision
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Oh, and more specifically to your question, I noticed after a month there was a difference but truthfully it was about two and a half moths before it was a calmer routine for sure and not "hmm…is today the day?"
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Most humping is stress relief and not dominance nor sex related. Also being neutered will not stop them from trying to mount an in season bitch.
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The bitch was not in season. I'm sorry, are some people trying to say that it's not a good idea having him neutered? People keep saying it won't cure this or that, that I'm not actually expecting it to cure. After 18+ months of being very friendly to all dogs, Butu has recently started getting snarky with intact males. He has also recently (i.e. Sunday) attempted to mount a female dog for the first time.
I am not expecting it to cure dominance or the common cold. Chealsie508, thank you - I certainly wasn't expecting it to be under a month, and I didn't realise there might be a surge, so that is very useful. Seriously, is anybody advocating I don't get Butu done? He's a Trindle (not recognised by UKKC, even though he is stunning) and a Fanconi carrier to boot, and is 20 months old now. -
I can't see any reason not to get him done. The behaviour issues may or may not go away. He is about the age when boys begin to feel their maturity, and sometimes act on it (neutered or not!)
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Thanks, eeeefarm! I was beginning to wonder. I am not expecting miracles, just thinking that his behaviour meant it was about time, and hoping for a bit of a virtual hug, given that I am quite nervous. Thanks for all of you who provided them
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I wouldn't be too concerned. It's a pretty simple procedure with a male. Little bit more complicated with a bitch, but not usually any problem. I have had a couple of boys done, and there really wasn't any drama at all. Only a slight amount of swelling that went away in a few days.
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I wouldn't be too concerned. It's a pretty simple procedure with a male. Little bit more complicated with a bitch, but not usually any problem. I have had a couple of boys done, and there really wasn't any drama at all. Only a slight amount of swelling that went away in a few days.
Thanks again, but Butu is such a little Diva, I can't imagine him resisting the chance to make a Drama that would make Shakespeare look like Janet & John
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There is no reason not to neuter him but don't expect neutering to cure the behaviors. It may help but it may not. I know many people who have been sorely disappointed when the humping and same sex snarkiness continue after neutering because they thought that it would change the behavior. Often times there is some training needed to change the behavior and neutering may make working with the dog easier but it won't substitute for training.
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Thanks all those who helped with a reassuring word. He is home now, not Very Happy with me, but looking well and tucking into a light tea. Hopefully he is dopey enough to get a good night's sleep.
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Loki barely even realized he had surgery. Also, I had one heck of a time trying to keep him from jumping and running around until we got the go ahead from the vet. And the energy that built up because he couldn't race around like a maniac was crazy, even with more training and playing hide the treat games! Once he was good to go, he spent 10 hours at doggy daycare (out with other dogs the entire time except for the lunch break) and the following day we were at the dog park for over 4 hours as he still had energy to burn off and his dog withdrawal to fill- he loves dogs, and since he wasn't around any other dogs for a bit after his surgery, he actually started crying when we passed a guy walking his dog on the way to the vet for his final post-neuter check-up. I'm sure everything with your boy will be fine and he'll probably relish the extra attention you're sure to give
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Loki is such a brilliant name for a Basenji! Oh, yes - I don't know if you have Lily's Kitchen food in the US - but Butu has a tin of venison, pheasant and salmon mix for a couple of days time when his tummy has settled…..plus some Bedtime Biscuits and some that are supposed to build his immune system up. He has insisted on a coupe of gentle walks since he got home, but the treat games will come out tomorrow!
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I'm pleased to hear that Butu is recovering well from his surgery. I'm sure you'll be feeling ok with it now as well. I don't think the others were trying to put you off - just being concerned that you didn't feel (as many do by the way) that neutering will cure all problems which you weren't I gather. Incidentally it can take many many months for sexual activities to cease after castrating -it varies with different dogs so be prepared.
Nice to hear from you again.
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Thanks, Patty - you are absolutely right that I was not expecting the neutering to cure anything. I take it that by 'sexual activities' you are referring to his behaviour towards girls and boys? If so, thanks! Funnily enough, when we were sitting outside today, an intact boy came up and Butu wagged his tail at him! He is really not a wagger, so I was amazed! (And, no, before anybody thinks I think this was down to the neutering, I don't - this was a puppy, and he's always been fine with pups…) The wag was a real surprise though...
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A lot of research shows that dogs develop male hormone driven behavior well before a year, and that neutering after the behavior will not stop them. But the decrease in hormones will help making training those behaviors far easier, so early or late, you can usually get a bump in decreasing unwanted behaviors.
Glad all is well.
