@eeeefarm - Totally agree with both of you, while I don't do the "restrain the pup", but if it works great and in a pinch it does work for me if really needed. When we have pups (babies) and Mom is tired of them and puts herself in a position that they can't reach her, they turn to the next adult in the house.... same thing will happen if they get over excited and yes, I have seen Basenji Moms, pin the pup to the ground and/or other adults in the home.... so it is something that a pup understands. Walking away works for me... or I try to change up the "game" by turning to working their minds and getting them to think about other things. In the Basenji Breed this is another way of teaching them that the prior behavior is not acceptable. They learn pretty quickly. Thanks for posting this thread eeeefarm... well needed...
Photos from the II
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I had been waiting for Kent to upload his photos after hearing that the other field photographer had shots of the dog Xander was DQ'd with on Sat, clearly biting his running mate on Sunday.
it certainly appears that the judges made a blanket error in DQing blue as the photos show yellow repeatedly biting blue well before they came into the finish which is where the judges say my blue dog jumped the yellow dog coming around the corner. Hopefully our letter of protest along with these photos will be sufficient to remove Xanders DQ as at best it was retaliation for repeated biting earlier in the course.
http://www.bigpawprints.net/2010%20II/Saturday%20Prelims/Basenji%20Prelims/index.html
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Sure enough it is pretty clear who was biting who
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That's pretty clear Lisa. Why does yellow not have a muzzle?
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We were told he has always run clean before, but he sure did not like the other boys, was growling constantly in the paddock, I kept my kids well away from him and made sure Xander was muzzled as we knew he could outrun any agressor, and we did not want him called for retaliating as he has never even tried to retaliate against agressors in the past, he runs straight to me when bullied as he did not his runs finish.
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We were told he has always run clean before, but he sure did not like the other boys, was growling constantly in the paddock, I kept my kids well away from him and made sure Xander was muzzled as we knew he could outrun any agressor, and we did not want him called for retaliating as he has never even tried to retaliate against agressors in the past, he runs straight to me when bullied as he did not his runs finish.
Do you know if this dog has done this before? Being growly like that I would think the owner would think " hmm, that doesn't sound good I better muzzle him".
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More like if they heard him growing in the paddock, they should have NOT run him… at all. Clearly that was a sign that he was not going to be focused on the Lure.....
And in AKC or ASFA, muzzles are not required so an owner doesn't have to use one.
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Well, I sure hope they see what is so obvious..I am sorry this happened to him..
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Yikes. Were there 3 FCh on Sunday? Because if so that yellow dog ran with Riley and Zuri I think.
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The pictures tell the story. These pictures might be good for the biting dog's owner to see. Perhaps they might then take using a muzzle seriously.
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Looking at the pics from the Basenji finals on Saturday that wasn't the only dog caught being bad on film.
Hopefully, ASFA will accept the photos as evidence when considering your complaint.
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I hope it helps, we will see, I don't think he will have a problem being reinstated, just hate to have that on his record. I did not look at the finals, there was one dismissed there too. That is after I spoke to the judges about their DQ's or those probably would have been Dq's too.
Yes, he ran with Riley and Zuri on Sun and is on film Sunday biting Zuri in the back. The owner was clueless, the open dog Sat forfeited rather than run with him and take a chance at getting hurt.
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The dog in the finals pics on Saturday was doing the same thing as the tri but was muzzled.
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Sure enough is, two reds running
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Too bad LisaS you talked to the judges to the point that they did not DQ the red dog from the finals - as she twice went after the competition - hardly what I call "bumping". I am sorry they DQ'd Xander when it is so obvious he was not at fault. Please keep us posted re: what ASFA does. It would be great if they remove it from his record. Good luck.
LisaV and Pat - I heard an Az dog was dimissed from your BCONC trials (not sure AKC or ASFA) this past weekend. Any idea who it was. I would like to know who to avoid if I decide to start running again. Private replies are fine. Thanks.
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There were two trials that day, one ASFA and one AKC, because we were doing the puppy match at the same time, I didn't watch the trials, but will see if I can find out for you. However I think he uses a whistle to try and recall his dogs at the end of a run… which doesn't work and he also has a daughter that shows JRS?