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So, I've been working on the recall . . .

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  • agilebasenjiA

    Thanks. This was a cottontail. I can't imagine her retreiving a jack. She's only about 20 pounds and I think the jacks around here are that big. And I don't think I could have called her off the rabbit, so I did wait to call her until after the chase.

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  • thunderbird8588T

    What does premacked mean please ?

    Shelley

    Basenji Malaika

    Basenji Malaika
    Basenji Kwame

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  • nomrbddgsN

    Haha. At least you could have kept a piece of fur for coursing! I can just see you there on the other side of the fence looking in!

    Arlene, the Basenji Brats with the Boxenji![](images/smilies/biggrin.png "Big Grin")

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  • nobarkusN

    @thunderbird8588:

    What does premacked mean please ?

    Never heard that term myself. I found this.

    http://www.petsalley.com/newsreinforcement.html

    Buddy, Paolo and Dan

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  • agilebasenjiA

    Yes, in short, an organism will do a less desired behavior in order to get to do a more desired behavoir.

    http://life.familyeducation.com/dogs/pet-training/47296.html

    She came to me (with rabbit in mouth) and I should have allowed her to return to the rabbit as a reward for coming and dropping it. I did reward her with chicken, however a bigger pay off for her would have been to return to her new favorite toy, the dying rabbit. So now, I wonder the next time (if there's a next time) will she be more apt to NOT recall because last time she did recall and all the fun ended.

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  • BasenjimammaB

    Sounds like she is doing great. I have been wanting to work Otis on the recall, but we haven't really had any space to do it, and I haven't had time to have him separated from our other dogs..so if I call him, they all come including him, but I don't think it is because he is wanting to, I think it is because he is following the 2 non b's to me..they are very eager to come when he called, he really couldn't care less..but we will work on it here in the fall. Thanks for the ideas as well as that link..

    Petra and Pippin

    with Otis in my heart…

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  • agilebasenjiA

    Bmamma-
    Pick up the booklet or DVD called Really Reliable Recall by Leslie Nelson. She has Afghans and so is familiar with training indepentant sighthounds.

    The other thing you can do with a pack is to use one word to call everyone. "Dogs, come" and the first one (or two) that get to you gets the treat. Soon you should have everyone running to you as quickly as they can. I haven't done this with recalls, but I have done this a little with sits.

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  • nobarkusN

    @agilebasenji:

    Bmamma-
    Pick up the booklet or DVD called Really Reliable Recall by Leslie Nelson. She has Afghans and so is familiar with training indepentant sighthounds.

    The other thing you can do with a pack is to use one word to call everyone. "Dogs, come" and the first one (or two) that get to you gets the treat. Soon you should have everyone running to you as quickly as they can. I haven't done this with recalls, but I have done this a little with sits.

    I have that DVD myself. There's some really good stuff in it. More geared towards sight hounds.

    Buddy, Paolo and Dan

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  • wizardW

    Premack is also described in the "Offleash Control" book (I think that's the correct title).

    I don't think you need to worry about the next time. This was only her first "test" after all and anyway she had a very good reward. You didn't say what you did with the rabbit – I'd have cut off a leg or the tail for future workouts.

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  • agilebasenjiA

    Close, "Control Unleashed". And we do a lot of that stuff (actually, I ended up teaching CU classes)

    The rabbit - I told hubby to perform a funeral (Otherwise I'd have tossed it into the tall grasses in the easment and left it for nature)

    And I do have quite a few assortments of skins - rabbits, fox (i think) a coyote tail and I even have a mink stole that kind of grosses me out (they have eyes and clips in the mouth - ick)

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  • thunderbird8588T

    Thanks for the info on Premack

    Shelley

    Basenji Malaika

    Basenji Malaika
    Basenji Kwame

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