Getting tooth pulled in a show dog??

[tanza]

@SenjiShowgirl:

ok, sorry about the delay, i can't get on all that much, but let me straighten some bits out:

what i meant by "I must finish him" is that i have him on a strict contract stating he is a SHOW dog and must compete in AKC shows until he has earned his championship or have reached 50 shows. if by 50 shows he is not a champion it is up to me then to keep showing him or not.

barring any signifigant injury that would bar him from competition i have to show him, per contract.

i was able to get ahold of his breeder and our decision is to get the tooth pulled, but keep it, and have the vet write up a note saying the missing tooth is not genetically at fault.
once his mouth is fully healed i will take him out to a few shows and see how it goes.
He's a nice boy, maybe not specials material, but still a nice boy, so if he bombs at these shows and it is obvious that it is because of the missing tooth, then i will have to speak to his breeder again to determine what to do from there.

if i have a vet note, and the tooth in a baggie, i should not be judged too harshly? if it used to be there i see no reason not to be judged fairly. also, are judges not allowed to ask?

~Charlene

dmcarty might have a different view, as she is a judge… but in my experience... I don't think that you can take that in the ring with you? And again, in my experience, 99% of judges would not look at it anyway even if you did...

Here is a question, is it on the show side or the "off" show side? If on the off show side, I would bet that 99% of the time, most judges might not even notice it was missing. Many times they just raise the lips enough to see how the bite closes....

[khanis]

@SenjiShowgirl:

if i have a vet note, and the tooth in a baggie, i should not be judged too harshly? if it used to be there i see no reason not to be judged fairly. also, are judges not allowed to ask?

A judge CANNOT look at some note.
They are judging the dog's conformation, as it is, on that day and time, not how it was when it had the tooth, etc.
ONE tooth missing is not a big deal, so who really cares.
There is no DQ in the basenji breed, teeth are only required to be in a scissors bite. That is looking at the front, not the molars.

As a judge, I have been asoutnded at how many exhibitors/breeders will actualy show a dog with a bad or wry bite. :eek:

BTW… I had a 4x BISS winner.. his missing premolar never seemed to hurt him!!

[lvoss]

The tooth that is going to be pulled is the one of the dog's canines not a molar.

From the first post it is his top canine, non-show side.

[khanis]

It does not matter what tooth it is.
The fact is in the Basenji standard, the teeth are to be a scissors bite.
If the tooth is NOT there, it will not be part of the bite that is being looked at anyways.
If the dog is getting consistently last in his class, I would have to speculate that are far more serious faults than a missing tooth.

And I would not consider one missing tooth to be as serious as a totally undershot or wry bite.

Of course, this is only my opinion as breeder, exhibitor and a judge.