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  • K

    I agree Arlene, Tank is my pick over Bubba now. But hard to tell just from a few photos. Movement, personality, and other things can really make a difference. Hard to tell without getting your hands on the dogs.

    I'm sure you'll have a ton of fun with whoever you choose! Please keep sharing!

    Kelli Harmon

    Kiroja Basenjis

    Southgate, MI USA

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  • nomrbddgsN

    Well, Bubba is pigheaded. Tank is more amenable. He's better with the other dogs-doesn't bully. He is more even tempered at this point. I'm giving them their second shots today before the two of them leave tomorrow, so I'll be starting to take them 'out and about'. That should help his temperment even more. He was actually the calmer of the two for tattoing as well. The thing I'm really impressed with (I know this doesn't mean much) is his chest and his wrinkle. Although, I find the shoulder set a little forward beside Bubba, I don't know if this will be a problem.

    Arlene, the Basenji Brats with the Boxenji![](images/smilies/biggrin.png "Big Grin")

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  • Ninabeana26N

    So Arlene, which one did you end up keeping? :)

    Nina & my baby boy Dallas

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  • nomrbddgsN

    I'm not sure I'm keeping any. Tank is still here, but if I can find a good home, he will probably go with certain limitations. Such as showing. Bubba's owners have agreed not to neuter him yet until I see him at six months. They are really very good people. There are new videos of the two on the photobucket page, but they move so fast, it's hard to catch pics of them.

    Arlene, the Basenji Brats with the Boxenji![](images/smilies/biggrin.png "Big Grin")

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  • nomrbddgsN

    Just a few updates. Tank will be going to a new home. The people are very nice and wish to show him, at least they are willing to try, they don't know much about it but they think it would be fun, and they will be coming to racing this weekend to see what that is all about.

    Lilo will also be going to Nicholas on April 4. So wish him luck-he's going to need it! (Sorry Nicholas) Lilo is a climber and has just decided that escaping the xpen by pulling it down is the greatest thing. But she's a cuddler and kisser as well. Ahhh, the best of both worlds!

    Arlene, the Basenji Brats with the Boxenji![](images/smilies/biggrin.png "Big Grin")

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  • NicholasDenisN

    Thanx Arlene, we are so looking forward to a life with a Basenji, with all the memories we will be creating, the good and the bad. lol. We are down to just over a week so we are trying our darnest to basenji proof our home. We watched the two new vids that you d/l of the puppies, and yes we know, we are in for a wild ride. Hahaha. But we are so excited.

    Keep An Open Mind, and You Will Nvr Be Blind. GeT iT, gOt It, GoOd!!!![](images/smilies/smile.png "Smile")

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  • E

    I want to wish you luck and patience with your new additions, but more importantly, I must know, WHERE did you find that adorable cartoon basenji you are using as an avatar?

    He's charming!

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  • NicholasDenisN

    I googled Basenji images and found this lil' cartoon avatar. I thought he might attract a lil' attention. So I decided to use it.

    Keep An Open Mind, and You Will Nvr Be Blind. GeT iT, gOt It, GoOd!!!![](images/smilies/smile.png "Smile")

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  • S

    WAY cool avatar…

    Sharron Hurlbut

    BRAT, basenji rescue

    Evergreen basenji club

    Seattle Purebred Dog Rescue

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  • bellabasenjiB

    I think this cartoon Basenji is from the same artist. I can't remember where I found this one… and unfortunately am unable to read their signature.:(

    I think these are so very cool!:D:D:D:D:D:D
    attachment_p_68026_0_all-about-the-dog.jpg

    _**Lisa Lynn ![](images/smilies/smile.png "Smile")

    BRAT Basenji Rescue, &

    Mid-Atlantic Basenji Club**_

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  • QuercusQ

    I have one that is similar that has the B with a comic strip balloon above his head with an asterisk in it. Below the asterisk says "I'm speechless"…very cute ;)

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • ChaseandZahrasmomC

    @bellabasenji:

    I think this cartoon Basenji is from the same artist. I can't remember where I found this one… and unfortunately am unable to read their signature.:(

    I think these are so very cool!:D:D:D:D:D:D

    I believe it is Mike McCartney, he does a lot of tee-shirts and stuff. Here is a link to the website

    http://www.mccartneysdogs.com/breeds.asp?DisplayType=Breed&cmsID=18

    Jenn

    Chase and Zahra's Mom

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  • JannekeJ

    @ChaseandZahrasmom:

    I believe it is Mike McCartney, he does a lot of tee-shirts and stuff. Here is a link to the website

    http://www.mccartneysdogs.com/breeds.asp?DisplayType=Breed&cmsID=18

    Wow! They are cool! :cool:

    This one is too funny:

    Tillo's website

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  • renaultf1R

    @Janneke:

    Wow! They are cool! :cool:

    This one is too funny:

    Ha, ha, ha…I know...that one is my favourite as well. :D:D:D

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  • QuercusQ

    This guy must really know Basenjis!! Only those of us that have lived with them would get how appropriate it is for the red to be carrying the tri under the umbrella…such primadonnas ;) I bet that the red is a dog, and the tri a bitch, also ;)

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • renaultf1R

    @Quercus:

    This guy must really know Basenjis!! Only those of us that have lived with them would get how appropriate it is for the red to be carrying the tri under the umbrella…such primadonnas ;) I bet that the red is a dog, and the tri a bitch, also ;)

    SOOOOOO right! The only way it could be better is if the red was holding the umbrella over the tri's head - while balancing "her". It has to be a "her". :D:D

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  • bellabasenjiB

    I am loving McCartney's work, thank you for the link Jenn! I bookmarked it for future reference… it's great stuff!!!:cool:

    _**Lisa Lynn ![](images/smilies/smile.png "Smile")

    BRAT Basenji Rescue, &

    Mid-Atlantic Basenji Club**_

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    @Quercus: <> Right...I wasn't sure if that was the litter that Sue was referring to? But I don't know of her doing any other brother/sister breeding. So yes, Ariel is a product of that breeding. The idea was to do a test breeding to see what genetically, if anything, might be brought out. By doing an inbreeding, you can 'expose' recessive genes, and see what you've actually got. You can also set (as in permanantly set) type...but, that wasn't the goal in Sue/Jeff's breeding. In this case, the two "best" "typey" puppies from this litter will most likely be bred on from, as long as they test out as genetically and physically healthy, they will most likely be out-crossed, to bring in different genes. Ariel's brother, George, is quite stunning, and is easily the best looking puppy in the litter. Ariel has a beautiful head, but is long in body, short in leg. Neither one is what we consider a "show dog" ;) And the litter's sire is quite handsome!.... the dam of the litter, while long in the back and short on leg (like it sounds Ariel is) has a great temperament... both are great to build on the future.... and breeding out from these pups will be great to build on too.... I am pretty sure that would be the breeding Sue was talking about, like you I don't know of any other brother/sister breeding she and Jeff has done.