Diarrhea

My dog has diarrhea!
She was at the cabin this weekend with 2 other dogs around and I am sure she got into their food. I tried feeding her with her food but she had no interest in it. Needless to say now she has diarrhea today. When I got home from work her kennel was a mess (No details needed). I feel terrible for her. I tried feeding her again but she has absolutely no interest in eating her food. Is there anything I can give her to stop the diarrhea and that she may have more interest eating?
I worry that because she ate the other dogs food now she has developed a taste for it and will refuse her food from now on. She has done this before as we weaned her off purina for a better quality (or so the vet says) food. As soon as she tasted the better dog food she would not even go near purina.
She is skinny for a puppy (I think). What can I do?

Always give them a rest when they have a bout with diarrhea… you should with hold food for 24 hours and then feed a very bland diet for a couple of days... boiled brown rice and something like boiled ground chicken or turkey mixed in.. goal is bland, no fats... usually they bounce back pretty quick... and yes, good to use a betty quality food...

Purina isn't real good food. If you are interested in better foods, just search the forums. This is a common topic. Pat's advice is the only advice. Boiled chicken and rice always does the trick for Tucker and it starts to firm his stool up in half a day, typically. No spices. You pup will LOVE it.

Also, make sure your pup is drinking plenty of liquids. Dehydration is a concern with diarrhea.

Indi just had the same thing the vet said

(1) Get 10mg of chewable pepto give one tablet
(2) Boiled chicken and rice
(3) Free access to water AND gatorade

Hope this helps future help seekers

I would also suggest you change your food.
The wisdom is that you pay more for good quality food, and less at the vets.
I do believe that it is true.
Good luck with your b. tummy.

I have another diarrhea issue. Topper, 12 3/4, is on several medications that frequently cause him to be a little loose, but up until a week ago he had never had any accident in the house, even in pouring rain. Then about a week ago I found poop in my hallway one morning. I wasn't sure who did it so just cleaned it up. Two nights later, I found the same thing in the same place. Then this morning, my husband was cleaning up and he said Topper had pooped in my living room on a rug, and I followed my nose and found another small poop in the hall. Tonight we were out for several hours and came home, took them to the park and he didn't do much, and when we got home again I found small loose poop again on my living room rug. Now, we have a fenced yard and a dog door, and for the 11 years we have had him, he has 'held it' or gone out in whatever weather we had. These days have all been clear, no reason not to go out, and he is only 10 steps from the back door.

I did give him a 1/2 Immodium tonight, and stopped a new med that can have diarrhea as a side effect.

What has me really befuddled is the change in his behavior. He knows it isn't good, the other morning he is the one that was 'looking' down the hall and drew my attention to the mess I needed to clean up. If it were storming, or he was at the other end of our very small house, I might think he just couldn't hold it, but it is just a few steps from the dog door.

Any ideas as to the behavior change…or how to reverse it?

Anne in Tampa

Seems like he just couldn't "hold" it.
Poor guy.
Hope this clears up soon.
Does he have to be on the meds forever?
I would also call the vet to ask about this…

I would guess it is not behavior… but more a side effect from the meds... as he can't hold it... and really doesn't know he is going until after it happens...
My OJ at 16 3/4 has it happen, but his is due to old age.... sometimes he just forgets to go... and a "piece" falls out... (delightful subject isn't it...)....

I am working on human behavior modification as well, Topper slept all night, then I took them out front for a short walk up the block, where he 'did his business', a little loose today as well so I gave another half Immodium. The odd thing is that before I got his leash on him, he was headed back toward the hall, I wonder if he was on his way to poop? He held it till we were 4 houses up the block, once we were out. I took him off the singulair, I was hoping he would be able to get off his amminophylline (on for life, he has asthma) but the first day completely without the amminophylline, he coughed all day, so I started back on the old meds as well. As I tried to analyze this constant loose stool and behavior change, the only new thing was the singulair, which can have diarrhea as a side effect. As it didn't seem to work well, I decided to forget it! Amminophylline might be a bad, toxic drug but it has been working for him for a year, so I think for now we will leave well enough alone, and hope we can do some behavior mod. for both of us!

I'll keep you posted, thanks for the comments !

Anne

I find that taking Indi over to the spot, holding his collar and saying a very firm "NO" does the trick. But then again he is only 6m old

I believe a hard no can cause the basenji to start hiding his poop, sometimes to the extent that they begin to eat it.

I would ignore the mess and praise the going outside. Also clean up with a good cleaner…

This is probably not the issue, but when I hear about loose stools, I think of this awful gut sickness GIARDIA…

Giardia in Dogs and Cats:

More Common Than

You Think

Stanley L. Marks, BVSc, PhD, DACVIM (Internal Medicine, Oncology), DACVN

University of California School of Veterinary Medicine

Davis, California

Giardia is an important cause of outbreaks of waterborne

infection due to contamination of raw municipal water, backcountry

streams, and lakes with human effluent or infected

animal feces.1 The overall prevalence of Giardia in dogs in

North America has been reported at about 8%, with much

higher levels in puppies (36% to 50%) and in animals in shelters

and kennels (up to 100%).2 The prevalence in cats tends

to be lower, at about 4%.2 As with dogs, infection in cats is

more common in animals younger than 3 years of age. Most

infections are subclinical or show only transient softening of

the stool early in the infection, although diarrhea may be acute

and short-lived, chronic, or intermittent in dogs and cats.

Diagnosis

The diagnosis of Giardia infection traditionally has depended

on microscopic identification of trophozoites or cysts in feces

of affected animals. However, microscopic diagnosis of Giardia

infection can be difficult because cysts are delicate and may

be shed intermittently. Many artifacts (e.g., grass pollen, yeast)

mimic to varying degrees the morphology of Giardia cysts, and

care must be exercised in differentiating these from Giardia. A

commercially available direct immunofluorescence assay can

be used to facilitate the diagnosis of Giardia; however, this test

requires a fluorescent microscope for detection of the cysts.

There are also human ELISA kits available that can detect Giardia

antigen in fecal specimens; however, the performance

characteristics of many of these kits have not been well studied

in dogs and cats, and these assays are relatively

expensive.

Recently, a novel SNAP® Giardia Test Kit (IDEXX Laboratories,

Inc., Westbrook, ME) for detection of Giardia antigen

in canine and feline feces was released. This test is a rapid

in-house enzyme immunoassay that can be conducted on

fresh feces, previously frozen feces, or feces stored at 2˚C

to 7˚C for up to 7 days. This test represents the first commercially

available ELISA designed specifically for dogs and

cats and has the added advantages of simplicity, rapid

completion (8 minutes), and low cost.

Treatment

Treatment for Giardia should include bathing the infected

animal and decontamination of the animal’s environment with

a quarternary ammonium–based disinfectant. Giardiacidal

drugs used in dogs and cats include the following:

• Metronidazole, 50 mg/kg PO q24h for 5 days, is only

about 67% effective in dogs,3 can cause neurotoxicosis,

is expensive, and is suspected of being teratogenic.

• Albendazole, 25 mg/kg PO q12h for 2 days, is effective in

dogs; however, the drug can cause pancytopenia secondary

to bone marrow suppression.4

• Fenbendazole is generally safe and effective in dogs and

cats when administered at a dose of 50 mg/kg PO q24h

for 3 days.5

• Quanacrine, 6.6 mg/kg PO q12h for 5 days, is effective in

dogs; however, the drug can cause anorexia, lethargy,

and fever.3

Prevention

Recently, a commercial Giardia vaccine (GiardiaVaxTM, Fort

Dodge Animal Health, Overland Park, KS) containing chemically

inactivated trophozoites has been prepared and licensed

for use in dogs and cats in the United States. Efficacy studies

conducted in puppies and kittens revealed that fewer vaccinated

animals developed diarrhea after oral challenge, and

diarrhea in vaccinated animals was of short duration compared

with controls. Vaccination also reduced the duration of

cyst shedding and the number of cysts shed in the feces

when compared with control animals.6 The use of Giardia

vaccination as immunotherapy in naturally infected dogs and

experimentally infected cats has had mixed results, although

additional studies are warranted to determine the efficacy of

vaccination combined with giardiacidal drugs.

References

1. Marshall MM, Naumovitz D, Ortega Y, Sterling CR:

Waterborne protozoan pathogens. Clin Microbiol Rev

10:67–85, 1997.

2. Kirkpatrick CE: Enteric protozoal infections, in Greene CE

(ed): Infectious Diseases of the Dog and Cat. Philadelphia,

WB Saunders, 1990, pp 804–814.

3. Zimmer JF, Burrington DB: Comparison of four protocols for

the treatment of canine giardiasis. JAAHA 22:168–172, 1986.

4. Meyer EK: Adverse events associated with albendazole and

other products used for the treatment of giardiasis in dogs.

JAVMA 213:44–46, 2001.

5. Barr SC, Bowman DD, Heller RL: Efficacy of fenbendazole

against giardiasis in dogs. Am J Vet Res 55:988–990, 1994.

6. Olson ME, Ceri H, Morck DW: Giardia vaccination. Parasitol

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Today, after 2 doses of Immodium Topper's poop is soft but formed, he seems to feel better, duh!, and so I am hoping another day of diarrhea meds plus elimination of the medication I think was causing it and my grand old man will be back to normal. I thought about an intestinal bug, but hopefully this has a simple solution, and a better tummy will give him time to get outside!

Anne

I was told that if it is an intestinal bug, giving an anti-diarrheal upon onset will slow the bodys natural ability to evacuate the nasty virus, and the 'bug' can in fact regroup in the intestines and come back even stronger.

Fluids are key. Dehydration can happen so fast.

After the diarrhea slows, try feeding active culture yougart (I use Activia)to re-introduce the 'good' bacteria back into digestive tract. This along with the soft boiled diet and Gatorade or Pedialyte in the water, seems to do the trick with my older male.

Glad to hear Topper if feeling better.

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