1::Perhaps you need to read this string tomorrow morning, when minds are fresh.
2:;Why don't I give treats in crates? Well Debra, you didn't ask me that question, but let me give you the answer: crates don't work well for my girls.
3::And your thoughts on Rawhide? Well, you don't explain why you consider these treats that are sold everyday in the doggy treat aisle to be so horrible!?! You just imply that I'm giving them to my dogs to kill them? Perhaps you could have elaborated politely what your concerns are about rawhide, to educate me and others that are reading this string?
4::I have four children that I'm fiercely proud of.
5::Or, for this forum: happy, stable, basenjis. Debra, It is NOT for you to factually declare that the OP and/or the Rescue Organization created this "problem".
It is not for any of us to tell another basenji owner that crating is a "solution". That having basenjis sleep with, or without humans, is the IDEAL night time ritual. That giving them rawhide or peanut butter IS better. Raw diet or Kibble? We must all experiment, and then we have to individually choose the best course for our dogs and for our families. But whatever decision we make, the answer is not simply black or white, or for this forum… the answer is not simply black and white, red and white, brindle, trindle, or tri.
First, Patty I wasn't foggy when I read it.
Second I said crates OR separate. :::::Why not give them peace in separate rooms or crates or crate her til they are done. :::::
Third, I was brief on rawhides because I have posted on it adnauseum and really figured you had already read it. However, even if you didn't, you can put rawhide, dogs, dangers into google and get it pretty fast. It is not an OPINION that dogs die, end up impacted and have surgery due to them. Your dig about them on the supermarket shelf– so are cigarettes. So are many harmful things. Not being ILLEGAL to sell does not equate with good. But you knew that. However, will post tons of info at end.
Fourth, There is a huge difference between parenting styles and dangers. Your tirade shows an inability to separate FACTS from opinions, so let me be clear. I can unequivocally tell you that research PROVES breast feeding is healthier. But I wouldn't ever say a parent is bad because for whatever reasons they don't do it. You seem to confuse presenting people with FACTS with something else. Ditto on the rest. Research proves/disproves old things, we all do the best we can hopefully when raising kids. But I never got mad or threw a tantrum if someone offered me information that MIGHT help me be a better parent. I used my head to evaluate the value. You seem, again, to think that people simply having information/facts/research is an insult to you and your ways.
Fifth, yeah it is for me to declare that the rescue was WRONG to do this placement. As a long time rescue person with a boat load of experience with dog-on-dog aggressive breeds, it IS for me to say they were wrong because it is not only my opinion, but it was very important to me that the OP shift from labeling the dog the problem or bad one or whatever and realize that the HUMANS shoved this dog into a situation that they should have known was not likely to work; that the HUMANS created an environment where a dog who has proven not to like other females in the home is forced to live with one. You bet it is for me or anyone else who thinks it to say it. Blaming a dog for how it is instead of saying WOW I messed up and the rescue messed up with this placement helps the OP to look at things not in blaming the dog but in understanding who created it. And since you like throwing children into it, I feel the same way when some parent is out with a tired cranky toddler doing their nails and screaming at the child for misbehaving. TAKE THE CHILD THE HELL HOME AND LET IT SLEEP. Schedule your non-crisis outings for when the child is rested or you have help entertaining them.
And finally, it is also for me to say what I think when someone suggests things that are detrimental or dangerous. I am sorry if my concern for the dogs and the OP overrides any desire to make nice and agree with advice that is unlikely to be helpful, in fact add a new issue (another dog) to it, and followed by your own training methods that continue to keep your dogs in stress rather than just manage the whole situation.
MANY times I have posted opinions and had others disagree. Often others have thought of an angle I didn't see. Posting opinions in forums presents us with the opportunity to teach and to learn and to consider other options. Any time your need to post and have people agree so you don't get your panties in a wad is greater than actually helping the person asking for it, something is wrong.
Now, you want to discuss my advice and where it was wrong, please do so. But try to leave the tirades out of it.
And again, for the rawhide, I was not trying to be snarky with you. I really was simply trying to not continue to beat a dead horse I have beaten a dozen times here in this forum already and one which is easily found on your own.
:::: old post on it:
1. Pet Health Info
FROM: >>Seaside Animal Care was recently awarded the 1999 National Practice of Excellence Award from Veterinary Medical Publishing and an educational grant from Pfizer. We are one of just over 50 practices ever to receive this honor!<<
WE DO NOT RECOMMEND GIVING YOUR PETS RAWHIDE CHEWS. They expand when wet and are the number one cause of intestinal obstruction at our hospital. They are poorly effective at "cleaning the teeth". Instead, we recommend chew-safe toys such as Nylabone? and Kong? products. Contact the hospital for additional information when selecting safe chew-toys for your loved one.<<
While I find it LUDICROUS that they first state they are harmless then say they have seen it ALL, this does indeed support that they are not uncommon :
2. >>From the
AAHA: American Animal Hospital Association
Miscellaneous Pet Care: Are raw hide chews safe?
Rawhide chews are pretty harmless. The problems come when they swallow them whole. They either choke on them, or the rawhide balls up in the stomach and causes gastritis or blockage. We've seen it all. Moderation is the key. One every once in a while is OK, but they shouldn't be included as a regular toy or part of the diet. In addition it's usually best to supervise or at least be nearby when your pet is chewing on any toy. <<
3. >> Diet - Treats and Snacks (Vetinfo, Dr Mike)
It is interesting to me that a number of veterinarians I have spoken with do say that they have seen problems associated with these toys. Their experience differs from mine. I practice in a rural area and sometimes I think that I just don't have enough patients to see all the problems that vets who practice in more crowded areas do. <<
4. OMG, they sell it yet their vets admit it is dangerous!!!
Acme Pet - Pet Health Questions Ask Acme Pet'sExperts
Q. I have a one year old mix JRT, she is a great dog. But the problem I have with her is that, whenever I give her a chewy like those basted sticks. I have to watch her because she will make it all soft, not bite a piece and eat it. She makes it soft and swallows half while she is still chewing the other end. She has almost choked on me twice. This happens with the square chewees too.
A. I would suggest you not give them to her anymore. Many dogs die of intestinal obstruction each year due to rawhide. Find something else, which is safer, to give her.<<
Okay, this is a petstore, not a vet but thought their concern worth noting!
In addition, we don't carry rawhide chews in order to assure the safest play experience for your pet. Rawhide chews, when gobbled or eaten in large quantities, can cause choking or possible obstruction in dogs. <<
6. vet@dog - Holidays - Chocolate and other dangerous goodies
Dr. Lucy L. Pinkston, D.V.M.
Rawhide chews can lodge in the throat and cause choking, or a large piece may be swallowed, scraping and irritating the throat and esophagus on the way down. Once in the stomach or intestinal tract, a large piece of rawhide can also create a physical obstruction. An additional danger that is less widely known is the practice, in some countries, of using an arsenic-based preservative in the processing of rawhide toys. We recommend that, if you do purchase these products, stick to brands processed in the U.S. There has also been a recent FDA alert about the risk of Salmonella accociated with dog chew products made from pork or beef-derived materials: refer to the FDA advisory or call 1-888-INFO-FDA. See below (discussion on pigs' ears) for more details.<<
So the bottom line is, if it is SOMETIMES, even rarely, dangerous, and it isn't NECESSARY, why do it? Your choice, but lets have the facts to use to decide with.:::::::