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    My basenji has diebeties. I have currently started him on insulin shots. It is very difficult for me to give them to him. The vet said there are pills for diebetes, but they have not tried them for 5-years because they have not worked well.

    Does anyone know if there is a good one out there that I can check into? A pill would be a better solution for me and Mickey.

    Thanks.

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  • A pill is not better for you and Mickey because they don't work well. You are sacrificing your dog's HEALTH for convenience. Trust me, you will get used to giving the shots. I know it is stressful, but unlike pills, insulin works. Pills have MANY side effects in dogs and people. Please, do what your dog needs, use insulin.

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  • I will second that. Injectable insulin is the way you need to go. Giving injections can be scary at first but once you get into a routine with your boy, trust me, it WILL get easier. I hope your vet is giving you good guidance and instruction - otherwise, you should seek another opinion. More than some other medical scenerios, having a diabetic dog requires you to have a good relationship with your vet. You will be spending a lot of time either talking with them on the phone or in the office! Managing a diabetic dog is a big commitment but when you see the health of your dog improving it will be worth it. Good luck. :)

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    Thank you both for hearing me. I have read on some web-sites that pills do not work for dogs. I went and bought a muzzel today and the shot was a bit easier. I will be taking the best care of my Mickey that I can. Thank you for your advise.

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  • Yes, if the trouble is with getting Mickey to accept you giving him the injections, a muzzle is definitely warranted. Safety first! But, try and create a positive association between the injection and one of his favourite treats, and hopefully with time he will settle down and you will no longer need the muzzle. Injection = yummy treat. If he's an enthusiastic eater perhaps you can slip the injection in while he's eating and he may not notice. Alternatively, you can try "cross-tying" him and standing with his butt between your knees, facing in opposite directions. Keep the leashes taut and give the injection over his hind end. I've found that techique to work well if I have to give an injection to a small dog by myself and I don't totally trust the dog. Do you have someone to help you? That is always easier.

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    Thank you both for your support. It has meant a lot to me. The muzzel has been working great, he lets me put it on him after a greenie, his favorite treat. He also gets a greenie after the shot. I am getting very good at the shot now.

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  • @Elliebug:

    Thank you both for your support. It has meant a lot to me. The muzzel has been working great, he lets me put it on him after a greenie, his favorite treat. He also gets a greenie after the shot. I am getting very good at the shot now.

    This is really wonderful to hear! You've persevered through what was difficult for you, and now you can give your dog the best possible treatment. I commend you! :)

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  • I used to give my diabetic dog's shots in skin pinched up between her shoulder blades, I would clamp her (mid-section) between my knees, both facing the same way, and just pop it in. I did use a muzzle at first, then she got used to it, those areas became a bit numb, and it was just easier for both of us. We did the shot twice a day for several years and she became very accepting. Give a bit of meat as a treat afterwards and he may 'cal it even'. Treats need to be protein or green beans, low glycemic index foods.

    Good for you for learning to give the shots!

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  • I'm so glad to hear that it's getting easier for you and Mickey!! That's awesome. Way to go. :)
    Do you know when your vet wants to do a curve to see how he's regulating? Or have they broached the topic of you being able to do any blood sugars at home?

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    I will be taking Mickey in on Monday. I have done it once already a couple weeks ago and they up'd the dose. We have not talked about blood tests at home yet. I will ask about that.

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    I tested Mickey with the Diastix today. It is still reading very dark, 2000mg. Does this ever go to normal with the insulin? If not does it mean that he is not getting enough insulin?

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  • Because he's not regulated yet, it's too soon to expect that he won't still have glucose in his urine. Which means you want to be extra observant for signs of a UTI, as bacteria LOVE to grow in a sugary medium.

    Being able to do blood sugars at home is always best, as the readings taken in a vet clinic can sometimes not be the best, with stress sometimes affecting their accuracy. Plus, doing them at home will save you lots of $$ long term. However, much depends on Mickey's acceptance of you getting the blood sample (your vet would teach you how), so that's something that may be a ways down the road yet. For now, it's enough that you've conquered giving the injections!! :)

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    Thanks Marie. I forgot to ask about me getting the blood samples today. But they said he read at 150. The vet said that was good for just giving one injection a day. I take him back in 3 weeks.

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    Elliebug,
    You are on your way, soon you will look back at this and be surprised it wasn't always so easy. You won't regret what you learn through this process and I am always amazed at what we will do for these wonderful creatures, but then I am just as amazed at their devotion to us. Continued luck with the process and you gain lots of extra credit points up above for this!
    Therese

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    Well, Mickey has a fear of the muzzel now and I have received a bite. The vet told me to give him half a benedryl to get him dozy before I try to put the muzzel on. It helps, but I feel guilty. We have a trainer coming over Saturday for a consultation to see if she can help me. She is expensive, and I have heard that she uses a shock collar. I'm not sure if she will use the shock collar for this, we shall see. This is so difficult. I hate giving him the meds but I am a bit gun-shy now after the bite. I'm really hoping she can do something for me. This is so crazy, why can't they come up with an easier way.

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  • Trainers who use shock collars don't get much respect from me, and I doubt that they'll get much respect from a basenji, either. I hope she has some other, better suggestions for you.
    I am sorry to hear that you have been bitten, and that things are not getting easier. :( What kind of muzzle are you using? A basket coursing muzzle might be a bit easier to get on, and feels less restrictive to the dog while still keeping you safe.
    Another thought. Are you able to put a sweater on him? This may sound crazy, but I had a client years ago who did this and it worked for her - and her miniature poodle was truly a piranha! This lady took a dog coat and "modified" it by sewing in 2 long wooden rods along the back. That way, when the dog was wearing it, he could not turn around and bite her while she gave the injection over the hips. She even, going even further, sewed big handles on the coat and literally hung the dog over a doorknob while she injected. Sounds crazy, but it worked for her. That dog probably weighed around 15 lbs. Hanging up a basenji might be a little tougher! :D

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  • Collar Cones will also work to prevent the dog from bitting you. Otherwise, I wish I had more helpful input.

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  • I am begging you to cancel the appt with the trainer who uses a shock collar. PLEASE find a positive trainer!
    http://www.apdt.com/petowners/ts/default.aspx

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