To each their own opinion Debra, I am working with Oakley on other issues right now and at twenty nine months he is still maturing. I don't live my life by the "what ifs", as of right now I'm able to be with him all the time when I'm not working so yes, I cater to his wanting to be around me, it's not rewarding for me to have a dog that's not independent of me, but it's the reality..and until I'm ready to address it 100% I haven't…he has made significant progress in crating and barrier frustrations...so I'm happy with the progress, and frankly..these other issues needs to be dealt with before addressing this...in order to make me leaving him with others successful. He's a happy, healthy young boy with a complex and stubborn mind, I'm going to work with him and not fight him on evolving and adapting his behaviors. However, your concern is noted and appreciated.
Tayda's test strip
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I am sorry for you and Tayda but at least you caught it early!
I am dreading every results of the strip test!
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I'm so sorry to see the strip change.
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condolences on your test strip findings… at least you were a responsible owner and now you have a early heads up. Tayda is so lucky to have you for a mum!
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I guess it means she's spilling sugar and I have to get her to the vet…
I am so sorry to hear/see that…. and yes, important now to get her to the Vet for Blood Gases..... and if you have not done it yet, take the Fanconi Protocol with Dr. Gonto's contact information for your Vet also.
Good luck.... and hugs.
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Important that you also let Tad know about Tayda's strip test results.
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Oh yeah, I emailed Tad with the stick in my hand. I've also already had a lengthy conversation with Kelli about it…. i didn't sleep at all last night... ugh. I don't even really have a normal vet here yet so I'm searching right now....
should i start her on the protocol now even before I get to the vet to get her blood gases done?
I called the em vet that did Lennys obstruction surgery and they straight up told me that although they have the machine, they don't have a vet that is good at "getting arterial blood"..... whatever that means. they recommended Tufts University and Angell Memorial Hospital, which both appear to be about 2 hours from me. ACK
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Oh yeah, I emailed Tad with the stick in my hand. I've also already had a lengthy conversation with Kelli about it…. i didn't sleep at all last night... ugh. I don't even really have a normal vet here yet so I'm searching right now....
should i start her on the protocol now even before I get to the vet to get her blood gases done?
I called the em vet that did Lennys obstruction surgery and they straight up told me that although they have the machine, they don't have a vet that is good at "getting arterial blood"..... whatever that means. they recommended Tufts University and Angell Memorial Hospital, which both appear to be about 2 hours from me. ACK
No, you can't start the protocol until the blood gases are done as that determines what and how much of the supplements are needed.
Wow… and I find that hard to believe? About them not having a Vet that can get the blood... honestly, I have never heard that? Can you check around with other Vets in the area?
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I called the em vet that did Lennys obstruction surgery and they straight up told me that although they have the machine, they don't have a vet that is good at "getting arterial blood"….. whatever that means. they recommended Tufts University and Angell Memorial Hospital, which both appear to be about 2 hours from me. ACK
It is a Venous Blood Gas test not an Arterial Blood Gas Test. You may want to bring the protocol to the vet's office and talk with them in person.
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It is a Venous Blood Gas test not an Arterial Blood Gas Test. You may want to bring the protocol to the vet's office and talk with them in person.
Good point Lisa…. I didn't even pick up on that.... glad that you caught that... guess that's why I thought the comment was so odd....
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And remember Dr. Gonto is wonderful about talking to owners/Vets/Techs about everything Fanconi… he is a great resourse....
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Here is the link directly to the protocol, http://www.basenji.org/ClubDocs/fanconiprotocol2003.pdf
If you are having trouble with the vet understanding what needs to be done, have them contact Dr Gonto or you can contact him yourself to make sure you know exactly what Tayda needs done.
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Ok, i called about 6 vets in the area and after having to spell b-a-s-e-n-j-i and then f-a-n-c-o-n-i to most of them i was getting really frusterated. but i now have an appointment on wednesday with one of the two "internal medicine" vets in CT who does specialize in kidney malfunction, so i really hope he can help. I will bring dr. gontos protocol with me, and actually i may drop it off before hand so the doc can read through it first.
I'll probably give Dr. Gontos a call myself also to speak with him….
argh... we'll get through this....
thanks to everyone for your support!
meanwhile tayda and lenny are cuddling up to each other in the sunspot and are none the wiser...
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Ok, i called about 6 vets in the area and after having to spell b-a-s-e-n-j-i and then f-a-n-c-o-n-i to most of them i was getting really frusterated. but i now have an appointment on wednesday with one of the two "internal medicine" vets in CT who does specialize in kidney malfunction, so i really hope he can help. I will bring dr. gontos protocol with me, and actually i may drop it off before hand so the doc can read through it first.
I'll probably give Dr. Gontos a call myself also to speak with him….
argh... we'll get through this....
thanks to everyone for your support!
meanwhile tayda and lenny are cuddling up to each other in the sunspot and are none the wiser...
The main thing is to get the Blood workup and Blood gases down…. and I think that would be a great idea to drop off the protocol before you go....
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It is important for everyone who is strip testing to know that in the early stages of Fanconi Syndrome dogs may spill sugar intermittently. So if you get a positive test one day and a negative the next or even later that day, still take your dog to a vet and get the bloodwork run, it may mean you have caught it in its very earliest stages.
Thank you, I am glad you made me aware of this. I guess I was being an optimist… My heart goes out to Tayda and Mom.:( I finally got Bella to pee in a saucer for me. She looked back at me like "what the heck, Mom" why you want that stuff! (I guess I wasn't sneaky enough). Thank God the color didn't change for Bella. I was worried since this was the first time I did the test (the vet did the first two before she was almost three years old). Tayda really hit home for me and woke me up about Fanconi, previously it was only in the back of my mind... Now she has me fighting tears.
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Thank you, I am glad you made me aware of this. I guess I was being an optimist… My heart goes out to Tayda and Mom.:( I finally got Bella to pee in a saucer for me. She looked back at me like "what the heck, Mom" why you want that stuff! (I guess I wasn't sneaky enough). Thank God the color didn't change for Bella. I was worried since this was the first time I did the test (the vet did the first two before she was almost three years old). Tayda really hit home for me and woke me up about Fanconi, previously it was only in the back of my mind... Now she has me fighting tears.
You should consider doing the DNA test then you will know if you have to continue to strip test… and if she did come back as affected, you can be more diligent in testing more often....
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Thank you, I am glad you made me aware of this. I guess I was being an optimist… My heart goes out to Tayda and Mom.:( I finally got Bella to pee in a saucer for me. She looked back at me like "what the heck, Mom" why you want that stuff! (I guess I wasn't sneaky enough). Thank God the color didn't change for Bella. I was worried since this was the first time I did the test (the vet did the first two before she was almost three years old). Tayda really hit home for me and woke me up about Fanconi, previously it was only in the back of my mind... Now she has me fighting tears.
You know, you can just put the stick in her urine stream as she goes. It's got to be easier than getting her to pee in a saucer.
or did I miss part of the story?
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Just got this from Tayda….
The one on the left is the unused one.
I am so sorry to see that.
It's my greatest fear as I test Jazzy….I watch that strip with my breath held every time, just waiting for the day that I hope never comes. -
Spilling sugar can be diabetes, too, not sure which I would rather a dog have. If the blood sugar is high and sugar is spilling into the urine, that is diabetes. If the blood sugar is normal, but there is sugar in the urine, that is Fanconi. For years, many vets did not want to follow the Gonto protocol as he is not a vet, but a few years ago it was published in a vet journal so should bear more weight with them. Good luck to you. I know of dogs that have lived well over 10 years with Fanconi, on the protocol. It can be a manageable chronic illness if the dog does well on it, so don't despair yet!
(((Hugs))), Anne
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So sorry to hear about the test strip result.. I can understand that you have a hard time sleeping..:(
You're in my thoughts.
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so i have an appointment on wednesday with an internist who supposedly has experience with kidney issues. the lady i spoke to on the phone seemed to think that he would want to do a urinanalysis first to rule out UTI or something else. i said over and over that my goal for the appointment was to get her venous blood gas panel done and can he do that… she of course wouldn't commit to anything over the phone....
