One other note about chest 'dropping' (and why did dog people start using that term - it sort of conjurs up visions of dog parts falling off in the yard) One the the biggest problems in basenjis fronts right now is those that are too narrow and have a concave area between the front legs. I'm NOT advocating a front like a bull terrier but there needs to be some 'fill' there to have a good front but it's not the fill it is the actual structure of the bones in the shoulder and upper arm that - if not correct- actally pull the 'front' too far forward. A quick visual scan from the side - if the deepest part of the brisket is well behind the legs - the front is too far forward. We need to pay attention to the actual shoulder structure to make sure we are not continuing to double up on dogs with a short upper arm. That limits front reach, and creates a not efficient side gait. So go catch your dogs and do a quick check - measure from the top of the wither to the point of shoulder (the most prominant bone in the chest.) then from that point to the point of the elbow. They should be the same. if they are not - stand up your dog and put your hand between the front legs - if you hand is IN FRONT OF THE FRONT LEGS - great - if your hand is between the front legs the front on your dog is too far foward.
More than you ever wanted to know probably - LOL
Tayda's test strip
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What does the green color mean?? I hope not what I think it means.
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I guess it means she's spilling sugar and I have to get her to the vet…
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Oh, not good! I'm shocked! I havn't purchased the strips to know. My prayers are with Tayda. She is in good hands for the best care.
(((hugs)))
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aww, i hope this is not what it looks like. i would retest several times. i just bought my test strips today and i am worried about doing the first one… our prayers are with you.:(
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If anyone needs to check their test strips, dip an unused strip in some flat Sprite, it should change color. You can also add a little Karo syrup to some water and test that.
I am so sorry to see Tayda's strip changed. I hope that the vet tests show that it has been caught early and that she responds well to the protocol.
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I'm so sorry, but please know there have been many advances since Fanconi first appeared. It is no longer a death sentance. And we're all pulling for you.
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i would retest several times.
It is important for everyone who is strip testing to know that in the early stages of Fanconi Syndrome dogs may spill sugar intermittently. So if you get a positive test one day and a negative the next or even later that day, still take your dog to a vet and get the bloodwork run, it may mean you have caught it in its very earliest stages.
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I am sorry for you and Tayda but at least you caught it early!
I am dreading every results of the strip test!
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I'm so sorry to see the strip change.
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condolences on your test strip findings… at least you were a responsible owner and now you have a early heads up. Tayda is so lucky to have you for a mum!
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I guess it means she's spilling sugar and I have to get her to the vet…
I am so sorry to hear/see that…. and yes, important now to get her to the Vet for Blood Gases..... and if you have not done it yet, take the Fanconi Protocol with Dr. Gonto's contact information for your Vet also.
Good luck.... and hugs.
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Important that you also let Tad know about Tayda's strip test results.
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Oh yeah, I emailed Tad with the stick in my hand. I've also already had a lengthy conversation with Kelli about it…. i didn't sleep at all last night... ugh. I don't even really have a normal vet here yet so I'm searching right now....
should i start her on the protocol now even before I get to the vet to get her blood gases done?
I called the em vet that did Lennys obstruction surgery and they straight up told me that although they have the machine, they don't have a vet that is good at "getting arterial blood"..... whatever that means. they recommended Tufts University and Angell Memorial Hospital, which both appear to be about 2 hours from me. ACK
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Oh yeah, I emailed Tad with the stick in my hand. I've also already had a lengthy conversation with Kelli about it…. i didn't sleep at all last night... ugh. I don't even really have a normal vet here yet so I'm searching right now....
should i start her on the protocol now even before I get to the vet to get her blood gases done?
I called the em vet that did Lennys obstruction surgery and they straight up told me that although they have the machine, they don't have a vet that is good at "getting arterial blood"..... whatever that means. they recommended Tufts University and Angell Memorial Hospital, which both appear to be about 2 hours from me. ACK
No, you can't start the protocol until the blood gases are done as that determines what and how much of the supplements are needed.
Wow… and I find that hard to believe? About them not having a Vet that can get the blood... honestly, I have never heard that? Can you check around with other Vets in the area?
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I called the em vet that did Lennys obstruction surgery and they straight up told me that although they have the machine, they don't have a vet that is good at "getting arterial blood"….. whatever that means. they recommended Tufts University and Angell Memorial Hospital, which both appear to be about 2 hours from me. ACK
It is a Venous Blood Gas test not an Arterial Blood Gas Test. You may want to bring the protocol to the vet's office and talk with them in person.
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It is a Venous Blood Gas test not an Arterial Blood Gas Test. You may want to bring the protocol to the vet's office and talk with them in person.
Good point Lisa…. I didn't even pick up on that.... glad that you caught that... guess that's why I thought the comment was so odd....
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And remember Dr. Gonto is wonderful about talking to owners/Vets/Techs about everything Fanconi… he is a great resourse....
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Here is the link directly to the protocol, http://www.basenji.org/ClubDocs/fanconiprotocol2003.pdf
If you are having trouble with the vet understanding what needs to be done, have them contact Dr Gonto or you can contact him yourself to make sure you know exactly what Tayda needs done.
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Ok, i called about 6 vets in the area and after having to spell b-a-s-e-n-j-i and then f-a-n-c-o-n-i to most of them i was getting really frusterated. but i now have an appointment on wednesday with one of the two "internal medicine" vets in CT who does specialize in kidney malfunction, so i really hope he can help. I will bring dr. gontos protocol with me, and actually i may drop it off before hand so the doc can read through it first.
I'll probably give Dr. Gontos a call myself also to speak with him….
argh... we'll get through this....
thanks to everyone for your support!
meanwhile tayda and lenny are cuddling up to each other in the sunspot and are none the wiser...
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Ok, i called about 6 vets in the area and after having to spell b-a-s-e-n-j-i and then f-a-n-c-o-n-i to most of them i was getting really frusterated. but i now have an appointment on wednesday with one of the two "internal medicine" vets in CT who does specialize in kidney malfunction, so i really hope he can help. I will bring dr. gontos protocol with me, and actually i may drop it off before hand so the doc can read through it first.
I'll probably give Dr. Gontos a call myself also to speak with him….
argh... we'll get through this....
thanks to everyone for your support!
meanwhile tayda and lenny are cuddling up to each other in the sunspot and are none the wiser...
The main thing is to get the Blood workup and Blood gases down…. and I think that would be a great idea to drop off the protocol before you go....
