Anal Gland Issues and Diet
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wrote on 19 Jul 2007, 20:56 last edited by
what veggies are you referring too?
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wrote on 19 Jul 2007, 21:48 last edited by
Mine will raid the garden if I let them! Carrots, lettuce is a favorite-don't ask me why, beans, zucchini, corn (it doesn't digest but creates friction), broccoli, stir fry-basically anything I can get into them-and that they'll eat. But mine like veggies.
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wrote on 20 Jul 2007, 01:33 last edited by
Mine love cauliflower, broccoli, zucchini, corn (and your right it doesn't digest well)…. carrots (but they can be fatting... so not to many).... green beans... radishes, cucumbers, just about you name it....
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wrote on 22 Jul 2007, 21:44 last edited by
Our vet recommended sprinkling metamucil in the food, as with our basenji, if the stool is a little too dry/not soft enough it aggravates the problem. Havent tried it yet as the canned pumpkin idea works so far.
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wrote on 23 Jul 2007, 13:27 last edited by
isn't it funny that we all seek the secret to the perfect poo :)
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wrote on 23 Jul 2007, 18:41 last edited by
isn't it funny that we all seek the secret to the perfect poo :)
My ex-boyfriend used to refer to me as the #1 poop inspector :) because I was always checking my dogs' poop on a regular basis to make sure I catch any problems early….and I didn't trust my ex's opinion--I was the final decision maker as to whether or not there was a poop problem.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2007, 13:52 last edited by
Squiggys "stinky butt" goes in cycles. Right now we are going through it.
I purchased some pumpkin lastnight and we will see if that clears it up. He loved it and the cats that would sneak in and get it loved it too.
Yeah, its pretty nasty and my boyfriend thinks it is sick that my dog is licking his rear all the time right now and his butt stinks. But I think he is just jealous that his french bulldog cant clean her own butt:p -
wrote on 16 Aug 2007, 15:30 last edited by
Our vet recommended sprinkling metamucil in the food, as with our basenji, if the stool is a little too dry/not soft enough it aggravates the problem. Havent tried it yet as the canned pumpkin idea works so far.
I've never had a dog w/anal gland problems, and I hope I never do. Just grosses me out thinking about it. ew. LOL.
But I think I'd stick w/adding veggies to the diet before I added Metamucil or anything like that. It's a bit more natural. Dogs in the wild do feed on berries, roots, grasses and other vegetation in addition to the meats {which of course are the bulk of the diet}. Besides, most of them love veggies – not just Basenjis either. I've always had problems w/my gardens and my dogs. I never get quite the size harvest I anticipate at the time of planting. ;)
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wrote on 16 Aug 2007, 23:59 last edited by
Ok,,,,,,at the risk of sounding really stupid,,,,,,remember I am new to the basenji world (and actually the dog world) but what are you guys talking about? How do you know if a dog needs to be cleaned out? Now that I think about it ,,,,last night we took the dogs to the pond and when we got back I thought Bella still had a stinky smell to her,,,,,I assumed we hadnt washed her backside well enough but now Im not sure,,,,,,,maybe she has a poop problem!!!???? She does poop usually two times a day. How can you tell if they need more roughage and fiber?
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wrote on 17 Aug 2007, 19:02 last edited by
The smell is unmistakable once you know what it smells like. I think it smells like dirty coins and a little fishy, like tuna in a copper can or something. My B just went into heat so I am starting to think that maybe all of the anal gland issues that we had last month may also be related to that. I switched her food a cheaper brand and she has actually had better stools, go figure. She liked the pumpkin but would eat it too fast once in a while and I would end up with pumpkin puke on the carpet, and let me tell you, pumpkin will stain quickly. She seems to be doing better though.
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wrote on 17 Aug 2007, 21:51 last edited by
Yes, it's like a metal smell–that's how we describe it. If you pup was in the pond, that might be a different type of smell. But if its an anal gland problem, you would smell a metal stinky smell and sometimes a dog will leave a little wet mark on your sofa and the smell is horrible.
I noticed with Savannah she would get that smell if she only pooped once during the day. If she didn't poop at night, I would notify my hubby and he'd go pulling out the towel so that she'll be on something other than the sofa cushion. She had her glands expressed a few months ago and the problem hasn't come back--but then again she's been going twice a day.
Also, check the ingredients on the food to see if it provides enough veggies/fiber.
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wrote on 17 Aug 2007, 22:14 last edited by
Ok,,,,,,at the risk of sounding really stupid,,,,,,remember I am new to the basenji world (and actually the dog world) but what are you guys talking about? How do you know if a dog needs to be cleaned out? Now that I think about it ,,,,last night we took the dogs to the pond and when we got back I thought Bella still had a stinky smell to her,,,,,I assumed we hadnt washed her backside well enough but now Im not sure,,,,,,,maybe she has a poop problem!!!???? She does poop usually two times a day. How can you tell if they need more roughage and fiber?
All dogs have anal glands.. they can and do become "full" (usually a milky colored thick fluid that really stinks…) but typically they are cleared when "pooping"... however sometimes they don't... and sometimes it is due to not enough ruffage... however some dogs just don't empty them themselves.... and must be done by "humans"... typical behavior is trying to lick their butts, sitting on the rug and scooting their butts (to try and empty them)... usually that besides the smell as they will leak.. is a dead giveaway that the glands are full. And they can become impacted and burst that needs medical attention... there are lots of articles on the internet, here is just one link
http://www.animalhospitals-usa.com/dogs/anal_gland_problems.html -
wrote on 18 Aug 2007, 15:50 last edited by
I never knew about the anal gland thing until a couple of years ago, when by former boss was telling me about his borzois. I thought that was the grossest thing I ever heard, and I felt fortunate that Senji never had that problem. Sometimes I'd see him scooting on his butt, but I thought it was just because he ate some corn. He's usually not a food thief, but he finds corn irresistable. The only time he'll climb up on the table and steal food is when there is corn up there. He'll take a whole cob and run away to hide and eat it. Corn gives him horrible "irritable bowel" the next day, but it seems to clean out his anal glands.
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wrote on 19 Aug 2007, 14:23 last edited by
Speaking of corn, I left piggy alone for about three minutes this morning and she managed to rip a bag of caramel corn open and down about a cup of it. Luckily there wasn't chocolate or anything on it. Should be fun later today :(
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wrote on 19 Aug 2007, 17:50 last edited by
Caramel popcorn?
My three of my dogs all go CRAZY for popcorn. We have it every Friday when the family watches movies, and we have the most violent fights between the Basenjis over it. Most of the time, since Keoki moved in, those two dogs have to go outside for a while so the kids can enjoy their movie/popcorn w/out dealing with the dogs. We always make sure there is a lot left for the dogs, though.
For the record, none of the dogs ever show any bowel side effects from the popcorn gorge.
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wrote on 21 Aug 2007, 00:40 last edited by
Thank you, thank you for everyone who posted a response to my problem with Lillie's poop. I tried feeding her smaller amounts…the poop really didn't change. But, thankfully, pumpkin did the trick! This is a win-win situation because Lillie absolutely loves pumpkin. Thanks again for everyone's help.
Jodie:)
PS I'm still feeding her small amounts but adding the pumpkin to her food. -
wrote on 14 Jan 2008, 02:33 last edited by
Poor DH, he was "marked" by each dog today and their anal gland secretion. Both times as they were cuddling with him on the chair watching tv. Two pair of pants in the wash, two blankets from the chair in the wash, two dogs banished from his lap.
I am so at my wits end with this, this seems to be happening almost every week, there are dark spots on the sheets when they sleep with me, on the sheets covering the couch and chair and they have gotten both DH and I.
I need to pick up some more canned pumpkin tomorrow and start mixing it into their food everyday. I am feeding them Innova EVO, I thought this was the best food to feed them.
Has anyone tried the Metamucil? I am going to have to take both of these stinky butts to the vet this week and have their glands expressed.
Grrrrrr … :mad:
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wrote on 14 Jan 2008, 02:53 last edited by
What are the stools like? Are the firm stools or soft? Not all dog foods agree with all dogs. I prefer grainless foods but there are now several on the market that you can try if EVO is not working for your dogs. Wellness has a grainless food, there is Origin, Instinct, and a new one by the makers of Timberwolf Organics but I can't think of the name of the food right now. For your dogs a food with some grain might be better like Merrick's, Wellness, or California Natural. There are several high quality foods that I would consider fairly equivalent in the quality of their ingredients but some may work better for some dogs.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2008, 03:02 last edited by
Zahra's stool seems to be nice round solid poo, same for Chase just bigger size poo.
I feel bad for them because I am sure it probably doesn't feel good if they are impacted by they are not scooting. They only lick after the have excreted it on DH. :(
Do you think because I am feeding EVO that might be the problem since it is grainless?
I thought I picked them out the best food.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2008, 03:30 last edited by
Zahra's stool seems to be nice round solid poo, same for Chase just bigger size poo.
I feel bad for them because I am sure it probably doesn't feel good if they are impacted by they are not scooting. They only lick after the have excreted it on DH. :(
Do you think because I am feeding EVO that might be the problem since it is grainless?
I thought I picked them out the best food.
I doubt it… remember grain is really not a nature part of a dogs diet.... and you may just need to learn how to express the glands yourself... I do it for mine... and while not pleasant.. it is not a big deal...
