@jengosmonkey - I mostly agree with you but you had a bit of a different situation because you got Logan as an adult.... sort of like a stranger that is now feeding that boy.... so you did the right thing for the process of taking in an adult. The result of you laughing at him and then moving him was the right thing as you didn't take him serious or freeze up... you just let him know that was your spot and he needed to share! Good job
Aggression ONLY when in trouble…URGENT
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@Anubis's:
Andrea, my name is Beth not Amy. And maybe he was hit or punished wrongly in his old home. So maybe its triggering those memories. I dont have their contact anymore so I cannot ask them anything. Your ideas about 'what a naughty, naughty boy, come over here so we can do a training session' sounds Ideal and I will try it for sure! And it will feel un natural lol. Most people associate bad behavior with punishing it…not distracting them from it and basically ignoring it lol.
Ooops, sorry Beth! For some reason Amy stuck in my head. My apologies! Yes, I completely agree..it sounds backwards. And if you were starting with a baby puppy, or a dog with a normally sound temperament, it probably wouldn't be the right advice. I started learning about canine aggression because I have a problem child too! And I had to change a lot of my previous thoughts about how pets should behave, and how to get the behavior I wanted.
It sounds like you are totally in love with Anubis, and want to do the very best for him, so please, invest in some books about changing canine aggression; be prepared to open your mind about how to bring out the best in your dog, and you will be sooo pleased with the results
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Oh, kitchen trash - try a trash compactor. Wonderful invention that and it's BASENJI PROOF!!!
also check out the links i gave in my first post, especially the trading up link.
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Our dog does a similar thing and if its something really good, like food he should not have, he will not back down or take substitutions. He does not care what voice or posture we use, he tries to gobble it down ASAP.
Yesterday on our walk (in the dark) he found a big turkey bone / drumstick / neck or something. He could not swallow it, but would not drop it. I had to get it away from him. Luckily he was on his leash so I walked him home, with thing in mouth. When we got inside I held him away from me with the leash and told him to drop it, my wife got the squirt bottle and I repeatedly squirted him in the face till he dropped it, which he did. As soon he dropped it, I walked him away, with no agression once he dropped it.
I did not want to do it that way, but I sure as heck was not going to grab it with my hand or hit the dog (We dont do that).He will only do this for a food he knows he is not supposed to have & is too irrestiable. Anything else you can substitute or even take away. He draws a line in the sand for human food, which is is not allowed to have.
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Oh, kitchen trash - try a trash compactor. Wonderful invention that and it's BASENJI PROOF!!!
also check out the links i gave in my first post, especially the trading up link.
For sure on the trash compactor… gggg... only thing I would have in my house. It has been a life saver!!!!
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I know a lot has been said about this issue both here and on the Yahoo African site and much I agree with. Actually what you designate as 'wrong' or 'bad' behaviour is just normal Basenji behaviour - Anubis doesn't see it as wrong but just doing what a Basenji has to do. You say when he peed on your carpet you corrected him in some way. Actually it would have been better just to have ignored it - what's done is done. I know this is too late for that but remember when the act is over Anubis won't know what you're so mad about.
Find ways (many have been suggested by these very knowledgeable people) to avoid direct confrontation. Many Basenjis without early training will not accept anything taken away from them (if they've got it it's theirs!). Personally when mine steal food unless I can remove it from them immediately I leave them with it - it's my fault if I've left something where they can reach it. Of course if it's something dangerous for them I take it away whatever because I know that I can. Personally I'd expect to get bitten if I grabbed food from someone else's Basenji and made them give it up.In early days in the UK Basenjis were thought to be aggressive and have bad temperaments but this was not actually so, many of their owners and breeders tried to treat them as other dogs. As Karla on the other forum said they are a landrace and need to be treated acccordingly.
I'm not convinced that this is a 'rage' problem just because it started after some months - if you've had all the necessary medical checks it could just be that it is Anubis has now matures and asserting his masculinity.
I do endorse the use of the water spray to prevent an action as Barklessdog suggested.
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Beth, how is Anubis doing?
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Yes he has
Ive got him blocked from the Kitchen so he cant get into his favorite thing, the TRASH lol. Hes confined only to my living room so now there's nothing he can get into. Therefor I don't have to get mad at him for anything. Things are MUCH MUCH more peaceful around here…and Im getting him fixed in the next week or two. Jacque did a home check so Ill be able to foster a Basenji once I get Anubis fixed -
That's great to hear! Were you the one that posted the hilarious You-tube video of a basenji escaping from his crate? Does he try to sneak into your kitchen?
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As Karla on the other forum said they are a landrace and need to be treated acccordingly.
It's true that you are never too old to learn! I'd never heard of "landrace" before and had to look it up.
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Haha yeah that was Anubis! He knows how to get outta those wire crates. Well the one with PLASTIC treys in the bottom. I got one that has a metal trey. He chews the plastic ones so that he can slip through the slats in the bottom. Now he cant get the metal one chewed so hes stuck in there lol. He hasnt tried to sneak in the kitchen yet but Im waiting for it. The gate is pretty high and he hasn't figured out if he can get over it yet. Hes crated when I leave so that he cant try when Im gone.
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LOL please post the link!
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He usually has blankets in his crate but they were in the wash. And I wasnt even gone long lol. Just long enough to tape him escaping lol. I would come home to the crate on its side and him on my couch so I decided to tape him. So I purposely left for 20min with the camera running lol. This was a 20min video made into a time lapse video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94SteIaymNc
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THIS one's the best lol. I had a lot of fun making it
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@Anubis's:
When he does something he's not supposed to do then how should I correct his bad behavior? If telling him No sends him into his aggressive state then how else should I go about correcting it? He's bitten me twice…today in fact. He got into the trash and I said No Anubis Leave It and when I picked the trash can up he lashed out. He knows what Leave it means. I dont have the money for a trainer.
I do have an idea for you. Basenji's are very inquisitive and like to be stimulated mentally as well as physically. Do stop any 'correcting' you are currently implementing…Try distraction techniques: when you catch him doing something inappropriate, redirect his attention with an appropriate toy. Always change out toys too, rotate the toys every 3 weeks or so. The new 'allowable' toy will redirect him, and greet him in a happy voice, and make him interested in it. He will forget the trash or whatever and go for it, especially if you run from the inappropriate material. Trick him into thinking he caught the new toy and make a game of it. This will change your negative 'phermones' and energy and make you laugh, and he will not feel like he has to be aggressive or defensive from your (or anyone's) loud voice or body language (which you give him and he sees even before you realized you were upset….) He may or may not get over his way of 'lashing' out, but this technique will shorten his 'bad' mood, and maybe prevent his escalation into full blown aggression with a bite. Remember, you want to REDIRECT the bad behavior into appropriate behavior. Hope it helps, let me know....(I did some of this with Buddy when he would not 'come' when called, I would make believe I was chasing a rabbit in the opposite direction and he came 'this way' to me in lieu of running the way he originally planned.....)heheheheh
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I had a very beloved basenji who had anger issues.
What I found that worked was not a specific training exercise or method but more a mindset change for me. He would behave similarly to your boy– he'd get into something and then flip out. My mentor-breeder and friend told me it sounded like he was very insecure. I thought NOT. I thought he was being very dominant and aggressive. But her words stuck with me and I started changing how I thought about it. I decided to be his haven. I would let myself be the person he could turn to when he was that afraid and insecure.This is counter intuitive. It flies in the face of conventional thinking about dog training and it really flies in the face of the Cesar Milan flavored training that is so popular. I did NOT ever again think I needed to assert my own position. I basically became a comfort and a haven. When he got "in trouble" I emphasized HELPING him get out of trouble. He'd be trapped unde the table flipping out over a pizza crust and I would tell him verbally, "You're ok, Pip. Let me help you." I'd be ready with a valuable treat and tell him to come get it, and when he dropped the troublesome item, I would give him the good treat and hold him. I don't know. It seems namby pamby from the outside but he needed me to protect him from himself. He needed a place to GO when he felt that trapped by whatever that is that makes them act like that. I gave him a place to go and it was me.
(Missing him terribly as I type this.)
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He went through a time when he got crazy about being put into his crate. Same kind of reaction. He would turn into a spitting hissing RATTLESNAKE about it.
In the mode of helping him and of being his haven, I would hold him before putting him to bed for the night, and tell him I knew he did not like this part but I would be back soon. I'd rock him like a baby. It sounds so dopey, but I really felt like he needed to have his feelings acknowledged. And honestly, just acknowledging this solved the whole problem.
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gjrcvw: Im so sorry for the loss of your boy. Im definitely going to consider what you're saying and put it to work. Thank you so much for your advice
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Thank you, Anubis. Best wishes with your little dog.
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When I dog bites hard enough to puncture, you NEED professional help. Failing that, I recently posted nothing in life is free. You need to get to it immediately. Stop raising your voice, but make him work for every single bite that goes in his mouth. No furniture, no bed, his place is his crate.
He doesn't KNOW he's in trouble, he knows you are trying to correct him and his response is PRECISELY what an alpha does to underlings… he bites. You need to have a plastic baseball bat, the soft ones or very light, so that when you tell him to get off the bed or furniture, IN AN EMERGENCY (as in if he rushes you) you can keep him off.
I'm new around here and all, but really, a baseball bat? can we not try something more civilized such as a spray bottle with water? I find a spray bottle works much better than yelling or physical punishment. The dog will not like being sprayed and will retreat.
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This dog has done damage. A plastic bat won't hurt the dog but it can keep it from hurting the owner. A plastic bat, like little kids use, can keep the dog off, give it something to bite, or swat it away if necessary. This dog wasn't doing something naughty. This dog is attacking the owner. Really huge difference.
And btw, I don't use a spray bottle. I don't think they are abusive, but I also prefer to train right behavior, not use aversion generally. Well that and in my younger days never had one I tried it on who cared.
I work with aggressive dogs and I haven't found one YET who was charging that a spray bottle would do more than make it more mad. But please note I said that's a last recourse and that a professional is always the answer once a dog has done damage.
