Ah yeah though the site that I saw clearly had a picture of a Basenji representing the breed! Your link, they look nothing like Bs
So annoyed
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Would a paint ball gun be better? I've wondered if having your dog turn bright pink would be a deterrant for letting them run loose.
Another option would be put Cody in the car and drive to a local park where kids are. Maybe AC would be more proactive in patrolling that sort of location. (not that you should have to resort to that inconvenience)
I've never tried paint ball, and not know how much it hurts to get hit. Many people say it hurts a lot, and I've seen the bruises. Paint ball guns might be too extreme.
Can you take a video and prove that they've been taunting Cody and even you?
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Yes, it's a rural area. Our town is so small that we don't have a police dept or anything, just one deputy that patrols 1/2 the day and the county sheriff's dept is on call for the other half. The county Animal Control is short staffed, and with the economy and the budget, they won't hire any more people. The county is actually short staffed in almost every department.
I can take Cody to a small park, but part of the reason we walk here is that if he escapes (fingers crossed that he won't!), he will hopefully be able to find his way home.
My aunt mentioned the paint ball thing too. In her neighborhood, people let their cats roam and they spray in her garden, so she and her son shoot them (from a distance) with paint balls. She said it seems to stun them a little, but it doesn't seem to be too bad, and it definitely sends a message to their owners. I may borrow one of their PB guns. My brother also has a soft air BB gun with the plastic BBs, and we are keeping it by the door and taking it outside with us when we go out with the boys.
I'll try the photos and video if I can, but usually I don't think about it until after it happens. My first thought is to get away. I'm not sure who the larger dogs owners are, but I am going to keep calling the other dogs' owner every time I see them out of their yard. I think I may eventually annoy him enough that he will do something about it. I'll also try to find the dog fog, that may help more than Animal Control. As for Animal Control, I talked to some people today who are having the same problems, and we are all going to call them every time we see any of the dogs roaming, whether we are walking or driving. Hopefully, with all the phone calls, they will patrol more often. I'll also tell the others about the dog fog.
It's all just so frustrating. Even if there weren't leash laws, people should take better care of their pets and have more respect for others. Moe would never leave the yard even if the fence was open and he was off-leash, and he wouldn't run away like Cody does, but we still keep him in "his" yard (inside the fence), and if he goes in the front yard or out for a walk, he is always on a leash. It's not because we think he will do anything bad, because he's more apt to give a stranger a big hug and doggy kisses, but for his safety and out of respect for our neighbors. Plus, while we know he is a big teddy bear, to others he is intimidating.
I'm more angry at the owners than the dogs.
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I think I would be very careful with things like air guns or paint ball guns… you could wind up being the one charged with assult.... regardless of the situation... just my opinion...
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but I am going to keep calling the other dogs' owner every time I see them out of their yard. I think I may eventually annoy him enough that he will do something about it. .
There was someone down the street (we're all on 5 acres) who had a GSD type dog that would hang out on the unfenced front poarch and charge cars as they drove by. I figured I couldn't do anything about the dog's behavior, so whenever that happened and I was driving, I stopped the car and laid on the horn until someone came out and called the dog out of the street. My hope was to change the owner's behavior. Unfortunately (?) they moved before I could really gage if my experiment was successful. Oh well.
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A paint ball gun can be lethal IF the shot was at close range. I've paintballed before and even at a distance of 30 paces, a paintball on bare skin can be excrutiating on a soft spot. An airgun would be just as dangerous if the bb were lodged in the animal's eye. What's more disconcering would be the unwarranted attention you may garner with a concealed weapon.
Seeing as it's not the dog ~~fault for being loose, perhaps - if possible, try hitting the owners through their pockets. Again, If it's possible; how about the option of carrying an extra leash / collar or even a noosed rope and capture the dog when free roaming. Many may disagree with this option, but if the dog is willingly coming near you and if the dog were people friendly and non-threatening, this could be done. And once captured, I'd drive the dog to the local animal control center and leave it there and have the owners and the centre deal with the dog.
Otherwise, the next best thing to have while on your walks, would be to carry a walking stick to fend off loose dogs around yourself and Cody. Cody would think highly of you as the leader of the pack and the loose dogs will respect your space…
Hope this helps!
Emm~~
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I agree, it's not the dogs' fault, and that's why I am leery of anything involving PB guns or soft air guns. I would never take it with me anywhere, but we may use the soft air gun if they break into our fence again and start trouble. I've been shot with it on numerous occasions on bare skin (my brother thinks he's funny), and it just stings a little. Hopefully, we won't have to use it at all, but it will be there as a last resort.
Agilebasenji, I am definitely going to try that, especially when I find out where the owners live.
Thanks for the advice everyone!
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Personally I would get something to spray the dogs with. I have been told you can buy skunk spray.
Spraying the dogs with that would stink up the owners homes a lot, also make them think twice in letting them loose. Just go for a walk, and whenever a dog comes up to you spray him!
I would NOT shot them with anything, because then you are punishing the dogs, and not the owners. Not to mention there is the danger of hitting their eyes.
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I did not suggest an air gun for when they're out on walks. That's for when the offending dog enters the yard. Again, a single pump will not do permanent damage unless the aim is so precise as to hit the eye, which is very unlikely. And who said anything about a concealed weapon? I'm not quite sure how you'd conceal this…run it down your pant leg and walk like a peg-leg pirate?
Dog Fog is a police term for capsicum, or pepper, spray that is designed for dogs. I don't think I would want to try to lasso a strange dog due to safety concerns. Animal Control uses those long sticks with slip-leashes on the ends for a reason. Cody's person already said the dogs are aggressive when they are out walking.
Another idea: If you are out in the yard when the dogs show up and try to come in or pee through the fence, turn the hose on them. The startle effect may be enough. I love the paintball idea...just the visual impact of seeing a polka-dot dog...:D My understanding of paintball is the apparatus used to send the paintball can be adjusted for force, but I've never used one.
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Could you have someone take photos of the dogs menacing you on your walk and charge the owner with assault?
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We are going to try to take pictures/videos when it happens again. A large group of us are going to get together and walk our dogs at once.
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Good for you, I can't walk my dogs safely either between coyotes and loose dogs its not even worth it.
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I think I would be very careful with things like air guns or paint ball guns… you could wind up being the one charged with assult.... regardless of the situation... just my opinion...
Assault does not apply to animals. Animals, while living creatures with feelings of their own, are considered to be property. There are special stipulations applied to animals in the legal system such as cruelty, however, we're not talking about holding the dog down and fire branding it or cutting its ears off or other such heinous acts. I'm talking about inflicting a temporary stinging sensation that teaches a dog that a particular fence bites, but does not cause injury aside from a temporary bruise if at all.
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Personally I would get something to spray the dogs with. I have been told you can buy skunk spray.
Spraying the dogs with that would stink up the owners homes a lot, also make them think twice in letting them loose. Just go for a walk, and whenever a dog comes up to you spray him!
I would NOT shot them with anything, because then you are punishing the dogs, and not the owners. Not to mention there is the danger of hitting their eyes.
The skunk spray would get the point across. Like I said, I blame the owners more than the dogs. Dogs don't care if the stink, but I think the owners would get the message if they had to wash their dogs every day. That's cool. I'll look for it.
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I don't think the skunk idea is so great. If the owners don't care enough to keep the dog in the house in the first place, when they stink, they are probably going to be left outside. Thus defeating the purpose of the skunk spray.
I went the trap route. I have trapped three dogs over a year ago and sent them to Animal Control. They are now kept on leashes at all times.
The other dog I had an issue with, I followed him with a broom to his home. The owner came out to yell at me and I explained that his dog was loose, in my yard, and attempted to bite my dog. I didn't know about him, but me personally, I would prefer to have my dog chased my a broom and a crazy lady, than pay for a vet bill to fix a rare champion breeding dog, then of course the legal fees that would be incured by my suing his rear, especially for psychological and emotional damage from having my baby being mauled infront of me… I never saw that dog again...
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(luckily he just chased them out of our front yard, which isn't fenced in, and then squeezed back in through the fence into the backyard).
.:eek: WOW - you have a wonder-Basenji, having gotten out of the yard and just coming right back in! When mine escapes the leash, it's an all-out run and trap situation with all the people I can find trying to catch her.
It is too bad the other people let their dogs roam free, though - that would really ruin our walks since any distraction sends them into bounce, chase mode!:D
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The skunk spray would get the point across. Like I said, I blame the owners more than the dogs. Dogs don't care if the stink, but I think the owners would get the message if they had to wash their dogs every day. That's cool. I'll look for it.
The fact that they have no regard if their dogs run loose, I would wonder if you did something like spray them, they would never bother to wash them and just leave them outdoors….
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@AJs:
Assault does not apply to animals. Animals, while living creatures with feelings of their own, are considered to be property. There are special stipulations applied to animals in the legal system such as cruelty, however, we're not talking about holding the dog down and fire branding it or cutting its ears off or other such heinous acts. I'm talking about inflicting a temporary stinging sensation that teaches a dog that a particular fence bites, but does not cause injury aside from a temporary bruise if at all.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree
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@AJs:
Assault does not apply to animals. Animals, while living creatures with feelings of their own, are considered to be property. There are special stipulations applied to animals in the legal system such as cruelty, however, we're not talking about holding the dog down and fire branding it or cutting its ears off or other such heinous acts. I'm talking about inflicting a temporary stinging sensation that teaches a dog that a particular fence bites, but does not cause injury aside from a temporary bruise if at all.
Dear lord….I don't want to start a flamed discussion here, but seriously AJ, I don't think you are thinking straight here. And I can't believe that anyone in a dog forum would even suggest shooting anything at a dog! Makes me sick.
Of course it's illegal to shot a dog, even if it's a bb gun, soft pellet gun or whatever.
A quick google on the matter, and you will find tons of situations people did just what you suggest, and the people where taken to court, and LOST.
Found this:
"My dog got shot with a mini pellet dog on my neighbors property. My dog was being aggressive but did not attack anyone. We took them to court because my dog needed surgery to remove one the the pellets. We sued them for hospital and surgery fees and we won regardless of the fact that the dog was on there property. The reason was because they 1. did not alert the owners of escaped pet, 2. did not warn us to there actions, 3. took the law into there own hands and 4. animal cruelty. So if I was you I would call the police and file a complaint. If it happens again then it is your right to either have animal control seize the dog or have it put down if it attacks you or your family. Judges really don't like people who try to hurt animals, most of them anyway." -
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When the **** did I laugh at Gizmo during his allergic reaction???????? Sorry, but were you present and watching the whole time? Not once did I find that situation funny! Watch the video, not once did I laugh, nor did I EVER post that I found it funny in the topic I wrote about it! God I am shaking with anger here! I went ****ing sleepless for 2 days holding him during that time!
Nor have I ever thought it was funny watching him hump other dogs. Sure I can laugh every now and then, but only when amongst dogs I know. If there is a strange dog, I pay extra attention to that dogs reaction before stepping in. If you are referring to the single video i posted some time ago, that was a dog I KNEW and felt safe with. That one video dog and Gizmo got along fine doing their "humping switch" session.
Also I TALK to the other owners, and get to know the dog before doing anything. If I feel safe with the dog, I do not interfere.
And according to some professional trainers books I have read, at his age it's important that he learns on his own, and not have me protecting him like some fragile Chinese vase. How can he learn from that? There is a bigger danger in overprotecting the dog!
Dogs do manage to work things out by themselves.God, you have some nerve! Makes such harsh accusations with such a small amount of information.
I don't know you, nor will I pretend to, but you seem like one stuck up arrogant person that thinks that they know it all. Especially to go as far as to think you know me and how I am with Gizmo!
I have never been so offended. Do you go to playgrounds and yell at parents in not raising their children correctly too???
Oh, and BTW, yes assault DOES apply to dogs, it falls under the category of animal cruelty. And that case was a case in USA.
Anyways, I am so pissed off you won't see me here for some time, or maybe ever. I can't stand arrogant people.
