Big fight

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  • NexaN

    So I've been out of town for a few days and I came home to two basenjis that can't be in the same room. On Saturday Nexa and Leo got into a big fight, it escalated to blood in just a few seconds. Nexa went in to heat last week and has been cranky and Leo finally had enough.

    The pack dynamic in our house is pretty simple: Our female Nexa can do whatever she wants whenever she wants to. If she wants to grumble at Leo she does. Our male Leo is not to retaliate at all to Nexa. The second he does it escalates, although usually it's not a big deal. Leo is pretty laid back so most of the time this works out just fine.

    Leo finally had enough on Saturday and with everybodys hormones raging his warning growl to Nexa didn't go over well. They started fighting and he pinned Nexa down by her throat. My wife and mother in law were in the same room and it took both of them to get Leo to let go. As soon as he let go as they are trying to get them separated Nexa was able to swing her head around and she just let Leo have it. He's got puncture wound through his cheek and about a one inch spot on his neck that looks pretty bad. His poor cheek is swollen, but he is healing up nice. He's got little scrapes and bumps all over his head. You can barely tell anything happen to Nexa.

    My mother in law got her hand too close when she was pulling Nexa away and her finger got bit, it went right through her fingernail.

    Should be a fun month trying to keep everybody separated. Leo is completely over it and ready to play. Nexa doesn't want him in the same room. He lays at the gate waiting for her to play and she just grrrs constantly. Hopefully the after Nexa is finished they will coexist peacefully again.

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  • tanzaT

    Has she always been that nasty when in season? If so, you might want to ask Carol Ann about getting her spayed….

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • NexaN

    @tanza:

    Has she always been that nasty when in season? If so, you might want to ask Carol Ann about getting her spayed….

    Aside from a little grumpiness she has never been nasty when she's in season before…and we thought the same thing, the spay has been scheduled.

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  • tanzaT

    @Nexa:

    Aside from a little grumpiness she has never been nasty when she's in season before…and we thought the same thing, the spay has been scheduled.

    Have you had her Thyroid check?

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • Rita JeanR

    I do hope all is well and fingers and hands are all right

    Rita Jean

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  • renaultf1R

    @Nexa:

    The pack dynamic in our house is pretty simple: Our female Nexa can do whatever she wants whenever she wants to. If she wants to grumble at Leo she does. Our male Leo is not to retaliate at all to Nexa. The second he does it escalates, although usually it's not a big deal. Leo is pretty laid back so most of the time this works out just fine.

    I'm sorry to hear about the fight - a bad fight is always a little scary and unnerving. Glad Leo is ok.

    FWIW, it sounds like your pack dynamic is very much on point to what mine is - so I can relate :rolleyes:. In my house, Ruby rules the roost. Ruby is exactly the same way with Brando…thankfully, Brando is like Leo - laid back - until he can't take Ruby's crap anymore. In my case though, Ruby is spayed and Brando is intact.

    Additionally I have the added excitement of Ruby defending Aaliyah when Liyah and Brando have a squabble. Any noise from Liyah and Ruby is right on the spot to see if Liyah needs any help - Ruby sees it as her opportunity to get after Brando. When that happens, I usually intervene - I don't care if Liyah and Brando try to work out their difference, but I don't want Ruby using it to take a pot shot at Brando.

    Liyah is due to go into heat any time now. Obviously I won't be seeing if Liyah is nasty to Brando, but I'll be curious to see if she is nasty to Ruby. Up to this point, Liyah has never ever talked back to Ruby - no matter how harsh Ruby's correction, so I'm hopeful that she continues to respect her when the heat begins. I will say that if she goes off on Ruby, it won't be good - so I'll be watching that dynamic carefully. Your post is a good reminder of that, so thank you!

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  • AndrewnShangoA

    Yikes. Glad everyone's ok. Hope Leo heals up nicely and Nexa calms down so she can play with her brother again. Maybe they just need some delicious yogurt bones! ;-)

    Keep us posted about their "cooling off" period and how it's working…

    Andrew, Shango & Newsom

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  • NexaN

    Leo is out for a walk right now with my wife and Nexa is inside with me. She baroo's all the time, but she just started the fire engine yodel. WOW is that loud. She's never done it before. I think she's ready for her walk!

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  • BasenjimammaB
    Houston

    Gosh, I wished Otis barooed..barely a peep comes out of him…very faint "yawn yodels" sometimes and he cries if I live with one dogon a walk and he is not coming along..(I walk my three dogs independantly, so they can enjoy their walk with mommy.)

    Petra and Pippin

    with Otis in my heart…

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  • nobarkusN

    Buddy baroos really loud at the dog park at people sometimes with their dog's ball in his mouth.

    Buddy, Paolo and Dan

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  • E

    Dan,

    That's super funny. It's like he's saying, "LOOK!!! Nyah Nyah, gotchyer ball!"

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  • nobarkusN

    @EskiLovr:

    Dan,

    That's super funny. It's like he's saying, "LOOK!!! Nyah Nyah, gotchyer ball!"

    He's a real clown at the dog park. Makes everybody laugh and wonder how he runs and runs and runs tiring out their dogs.:D

    Buddy, Paolo and Dan

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