Wow, glad is he is OK. I can't imagine my B being loose. I know he'd be hit by a car. He tries to run after cars while on leash basically with every car he sees.
I hope he gets better.
I agree with Pat..the invisable fence gives the owners a false sense of security and the animals none.
IMHO, in the thick of a chase (like what happened with Otis today), I would say all bets would be off if they would even think about the consequence of the zap from the fence.
I have some friends with Invisible Fence, and their German Shepard has chased thru the pain on more than one occasion. And he has also stayed in the woods for a night because he wouldn't come back across the fence to come back in the yard.
Ok, I will look into other types of fences, or maybe not let them run the huge frontyard.
Thanks for y'alls input, I appreciate it.
I am so sorry to hear about Otis but I am very very happy he is going to be all right. Hope your all right hard to get over things like that. I would not trust invisable fence know several people that had them and they have never worked out ever. Take care and try to get some rest tonight lets all know how the both of you are doing.
Rita Jean
You're right, our Lou that would jump the 8' fence, he was mildly bothered by the electric fence we put on top to keep him in, and he kept on jumping out for years with zapping on his belly..I can see how Otis would push right through that potential zap and not care one bit what so ever..
I know everone on here is not crazy about Jaycee's training with sit mean sit but I know deep in my heart with collar on if something happen hopefully and just maybe we have a better chance. We never want to be mean to Jaycee but we do not want to see her get hurt or soemthing worse.
Put your baby on your lap and rest holding him tight love and time all will be better. Be safe and rest tonight.
Rita Jean
@Rita:
I know everone on here is not crazy about Jaycee's training with sit mean sit but I know deep in my heart with collar on if something happen hopefully and just maybe we have a better chance. We never want to be mean to Jaycee but we do not want to see her get hurt or soemthing worse.
Put your baby on your lap and rest holding him tight love and time all will be better. Be safe and rest tonight.Rita Jean
What do you mean? Does 'sit means sit' use an electric collar for training? I honestly don't know this company, and know nothing about their training techniques.
I was shocked to see this post. I am so sorry to hear about Otis. It seems he'll be OK. I've had a few close calls over the years myself. I had my first Basenji dart across the street and actually the car didn't hit the dog but the dog hit the backend bumper it was running so fast. Luckily only got a cut on the nose. The kid stopped the car and was very nice and apologized, went to pet the dog and the dog growled at him. We laughed. Nipper was really LUCKY!
Please keep us posted on his progress.
Andrea no not a shock collar there is a difference in there collar and a shock collar. We have a shock collar was for our akita we used it one time and that was it we took it off and put it away. In the box in attic still looks new years and years later.
The company name is "Sit Means Sit" they are all over U.S. and overseas. Please look them up and read about them they will come to your house for a free demo. You get to hold the collar in your hand and you can see how it works. We have Jaycee on what they call a 10 we have had to go higher but what it does is like a pulse like saying hey I am talking to you so you can get there attn.
Jaycee first class was three weeks ago Sunday and we learned to sit,wait,off and our playtime word for us is free. Wait is great use at door my granny lives with us so we used it first at her door when she would come out we would tell Jaycee wait. Like anything else you have to work at it and work but she has really learned and we have had fun. Jaycee has had fun.
Second week was this way used to teach her to go on lead the way you want and when your ready not when she is ready. Place this can be different things place on like safety because they are in danger or could be really cool. Now not to say that this way and place have not come hard they have and we are working on them everyday. Not sure what happens Sunday.
After your three weeks here they meet twice a week here on Thursday night and Saturday. Welcome to come rest of your dogs life if you like. Were dogs and people go and learn more and work on what you have learned then they have play time in Jaycee case we will tell her free.
This is not cheap but neither was Jaycee and we cannot but a price on her life and going to 6 week class for one hour and then you go another 6 weeks for second step and 1/2 hour drive each way and loss of time and gas this is really a wash.
Jaycee has really done great with this training and at front door we have been also using wait so any time anyone goes to door before opened first words are wait and we have not had any bolts for the door. Not to say that it could not happen or will not but better by 100 % to what it was and I am sure as time goes on it will get better.
Hope you read this and please let me know what you think.
Rita Jean
I'm so sorry about Otis… But I'm so glad he's okay!
Do you have trees in your yard? I was watching either Animal Precinct or Animal Cops Houston and this guy securely tied a very long rope between 2 trees, and he attached a long leash on it so his dog can play (with the long least going back and forth the length of the 2 trees that the rope is tied to)... (He did have a medium sized dog like a shepard or retriever, can't remember exactly...)
Just a thought...
@Rita:
Andrea no not a shock collar there is a difference in there collar and a shock collar. We have a shock collar was for our akita we used it one time and that was it we took it off and put it away. In the box in attic still looks new years and years later.
The company name is "Sit Means Sit" they are all over U.S. and overseas. Please look them up and read about them they will come to your house for a free demo. You get to hold the collar in your hand and you can see how it works. We have Jaycee on what they call a 10 we have had to go higher but what it does is like a pulse like saying hey I am talking to you so you can get there attn.
Jaycee first class was three weeks ago Sunday and we learned to sit,wait,off and our playtime word for us is free. Wait is great use at door my granny lives with us so we used it first at her door when she would come out we would tell Jaycee wait. Like anything else you have to work at it and work but she has really learned and we have had fun. Jaycee has had fun.
Second week was this way used to teach her to go on lead the way you want and when your ready not when she is ready. Place this can be different things place on like safety because they are in danger or could be really cool. Now not to say that this way and place have not come hard they have and we are working on them everyday. Not sure what happens Sunday.
After your three weeks here they meet twice a week here on Thursday night and Saturday. Welcome to come rest of your dogs life if you like. Were dogs and people go and learn more and work on what you have learned then they have play time in Jaycee case we will tell her free.
This is not cheap but neither was Jaycee and we cannot but a price on her life and going to 6 week class for one hour and then you go another 6 weeks for second step and 1/2 hour drive each way and loss of time and gas this is really a wash.
Jaycee has really done great with this training and at front door we have been also using wait so any time anyone goes to door before opened first words are wait and we have not had any bolts for the door. Not to say that it could not happen or will not but better by 100 % to what it was and I am sure as time goes on it will get better.
Hope you read this and please let me know what you think.Rita Jean
I did check out the website, but couldn't find any mention of what training techniques were used. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
Thanks for suggestion to try it out…but since I own a training business, and use positive reinforcement techniques, I most likely won't be doing that 
Traditionally, Basenjis don't do well with training that use punitive techniques like e-collars...but every situation is different, so I wish you good luck.
imbj,
We do have huge tres on our yard, and to be honest with you the thought struck me yesterday to maybe give that a try…now you have convinced me, thanks. The only thing I am still trying to figure out is how to let two dogs be out there at the same time, you see they love, love, love to play /race with each other and I love to see them do it..
imbj,
We do have huge tres on our yard, and to be honest with you the thought struck me yesterday to maybe give that a try…now you have convinced me, thanks. The only thing I am still trying to figure out is how to let two dogs be out there at the same time, you see they love, love, love to play /race with each other and I love to see them do it..
Just be really careful if your ground is not level or they have access to anything they can jump off of. I know someone who came home to their house one day to their dog dead from hanging itself…jumped off something and the tie line got caught.
Renaultf1,
My husband just nixed the idea of ziplines for the dogs in the front. He feels leary of that. The dogs would not be in the frontyard unsupervised, we only go there to play as a family, but regardless, I want to be able to have them safe and hanging themselves is NOT safe, right? We will keep on searching for the right answer, and hopefully find one. If not backyard play is what is in the dogs future.
A question…Otis had really bad diarrhea this morning, the vet said that might be a side effect from the Metacam, does that sound correct? He is acting normal, eating his breakfast like it was going out of style, and is very playful. I guess I should maybe not give him anymore of the Metacam, if he gets diarrhea, right? Or is that side effect OK as long as he is taking the meds? Weird question I guess but I want him to do well.
How bad is the diarreah? When you talked to the vet what did they say about continuing the medication if he is showing this side effect?
His next dose shouldn't be until later this evening so you have some time to see how he is doing by then.
The vet didn't tell me what to do, just that it might be one of the side effects.
I will try to call them , hopefully they are there today.
Yes his next dose would be later this pm and i will see how he does before that.
Here is what the insert for Metacam Oral Suspension says.
The most common side effects reported in field studies were vomiting and soft stool/diarrhea. These are usually mild, but may be serious. If side effects occur, pet owners should halt therapy and contact their veterinarian.
So the product recommendation is to halt the medication.
I am so happy that Otis is doing well this morning other than the diarrhea. Again I would look that med up on internet and look at side effects. However it may not be the med could be just the upset to isside of the body from yesterday. You could feed him like we did our chidlren when they were babies and they got diarrhea. Dry toast, Rice, Bananas and I would give hime baby food bananas. Jaycee loves baby food bananas but will not touch a real banana. That might help a little. Let us know if you try it and it helps any at all.
Andrea thank you for looking at the site and I would believe you would not use them since you have your own training business. I did not know that.
We do not believe or use pushiment on our aniamls our kids anything if anything we are more go easy than most. Our daughter almost died at birth and she is our first born when something like that happens in your life you look at things in a new light and way from then on.
I do think that this is some what like your postive reinforcement. I know we have only had a B since March but we could see frrom the very first day she had a way and mind of her own. We never want to break her spirt we like her way just way she is just wanted her safe. After owning Akita's and Shiba's they can and are very much do it my way also just not as crazy. We love her style.
Thank you again for looking and being kind about it. Wish you lived closer you could have trained Jaycee and us. I am learning we have to train her correct way not just anyway so we are training also. Have a nice day.
Nix the invisible fence - with any dog with a strong prey drive - they would be through it so fast on the trail of a bunny or squirrel that they would not even hit the tone or shock.
You are fortunate that Otis is living to tell about it - I have lost 2 basenjis to cars - (well actually one to the UPS truck) in the almost 30 years that I've been breeding. The first because - getting my B from exactly where you should not - no one ever said anything about them being runners. The second - a neighbor was over and just didn't close the door fast enough.
I hope that he makes a full recovery.
