@M-D-Allen M-D-Allen, I don't know why you think my question is "unwarrantedly, inherently suspicious". When you said "I have raised Basenjis 20 years", that's a long time so I figured that you'd known several breeders & other people. You never said that you'd only used one breeder or that the only breeder had died. I wish you much luck in finding another Senji..
Looking for Basenji
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Please be sure that this boy has been at least DNA tested for Fanconi… and do yourself a favor and the breed and neuter this boy
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Placing an intact dog without fanconis testing is not a good thing to do.
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Please be sure that this boy has been at least DNA tested for Fanconi… and do yourself a favor and the breed and neuter this boy
Isn't it true that BRAT dogs aren't tested for Fanconi either? So the only diffirents is the fact that he is intact with only eight months? Still time enough to neuter this boy right?
As owner who's selling the dog.. I would neuter this pup.. As buyer I would not mind buying one who's still intact..
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I know this dog and have been in contacted with it's previous owners. He came from Rocky Top Basenjis. The only club affiliation that the breeder claims is with the ACA. Make of it what you will.
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Isn't it true that BRAT dogs aren't tested for Fanconi either? So the only diffirents is the fact that he is intact with only eight months? Still time enough to neuter this boy right?
As owner who's selling the dog.. I would neuter this pup.. As buyer I would not mind buying one who's still intact..
The problem with selling (or placing) an intact, untested dog is that he could very well end up in a puppymill situation, or anywhere that won't test before breeding…producing puppies that will develop fanconi, and selling those puppies to unsuspecting (uneducated) buyers.
BRAT dogs may not be tested for Fanconi, but they certainly are neutered before placement.
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The problem with selling (or placing) an intact, untested dog is that he could very well end up in a puppymill situation, or anywhere that won't test before breeding…producing puppies that will develop fanconi, and selling those puppies to unsuspecting (uneducated) buyers.
BRAT dogs may not be tested for Fanconi, but they certainly are neutered before placement.
Yes, I agree, but that's more important for the one selling the dog than for the buyer right? (if buyer is not puppymill himself.. I mean an educated buyer, who will neuter the dog)
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Actually, as a buyer the Fanconi test should be important. It is true that BRAT will not test but if I was looking for basenji and knowing there is a DNA test available for Fanconi, I would want to know the results of that test. Just like if I was buying a puppy from a breeder I would want to know that at least one of the parents is Probably Clear.
It is true that uneducated buyers are not going to know to ask. That is why so many breeders can still sell puppies not only if neither parent is tested but even when the dogs have been tested and are breedings that can produce Probably Affecteds.
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Actually, as a buyer the Fanconi test should be important. It is true that BRAT will not test but if I was looking for basenji and knowing there is a DNA test available for Fanconi, I would want to know the results of that test. Just like if I was buying a puppy from a breeder I would want to know that at least one of the parents is Probably Clear.
It is true that uneducated buyers are not going to know to ask. That is why so many breeders can still sell puppies not only if neither parent is tested but even when the dogs have been tested and are breedings that can produce Probably Affecteds.
Yes, I would also want to know the results of the Fanconi test. But I was more looking at the choice between this intact boy and a BRAT dog (as a buyer).
I agree every breeder should test and make decision based on the results to protect the breed and the (uneducated) buyer.
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Yes, I agree, but that's more important for the one selling the dog than for the buyer right? (if buyer is not puppymill himself.. I mean an educated buyer, who will neuter the dog)
Well, I don't know for whom it is more or less important….but for the breed in general, it is important that all intact dogs that might be bred are tested...IMO
In many parts of the US you can never assume that someone *will neuter a dog, even if they signed a contract saying that they will. So, if I was selling an adult, or older puppy I would absolutely have it neutered before placing...that way there is no possibility that it doesn't get done.
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In many parts of the US you can never assume that someone *will neuter a dog, even if they signed a contract saying that they will. So, if I was selling an adult, or older puppy I would absolutely have it neutered before placing…that way there is no possibility that it doesn't get done.
I think we agree on this point
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Well, lets hope this boy gets fixed before he is rehomed.
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As I posted on the other thread; we have an appointment to get him neutered next Monday. We certainly don't want him to end up in a puppy mill situation. We just want him to go to a good home where he can live out a long and happy life. We are on a fixed income and just need to recoup what we have spent purchasing the dog and taking him to the vet. He is up to date on all shots and heartworm meds.
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If funds are an issues, you can do what I used to do before BRAT came along.
Find out the vet of the family your placing him with, have the family pay you for your expenses and then take the dog to the new familys vet for the surgery to be fixed. Drop the dog off the day of the surgery and then new owners pu the dog.
They get to pay the bill.
That makes sure the dog is fixed, sets up a new vet record for the new dog in the family, and you don't have to pay anything out of pocket.
Mostly, you know the surgery WILL BE DONE.
Thanks for making sure he is fixed before rehoming.
That is so important.
