this is a great book for basics:
thank you 😉
Hello from Taipei, Taiwan!
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@roux Go to my Basenji pedigree website. You will find almost all the ancestors listed there.
http://www.pedigrees.zandebasenjis.com/
Certainly I am familiar with all these - Klassic, Herminia, Adebanke, La Reina, Kazor, Bupe, Fogo, and All Square.
Some that you quote are kennel names. Some are individual dogs. Bupe is certainly Bupe Itapuca, born in Brazil (bred by Savio Steele) and living in Russia. Fogo, I would bet, is Fogo Itury Puzzle Itapuca from the same kennel but also in Russia. Herminia Itapuca is from the same kennel, and shares a sire with many Adebanke's. Which gives you that tie-in.
I don't have the parents - but Dietburg of Fei Jack FCI - the FCI indicates she is from a kennel which includes FCI in the name of the dogs. If you can give me HER parents, I can check it for you. Polish bred dogs very often have this inclusion.
I have two Belaxe in the database which have appeared in China. Both are from a litter by Fogo out of Herminia. Chinatop Thunder MIGHT be a littermate and if you think he is, I will add him immediately.
The coding you refer to is / are registration numbers from different countries.
Post me privately if you'd like to. My email addresses are in the websites in my signature block.
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Here's a photo of the back of her pedigree:
I'm impressed that there's an international database! I did indeed find her dam's parents and further, but not everyone on her sire's side
How do I go about registering Roux in your database?
Thanks again for all the help!Michelle Chiang
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This is great ! I will try to enlarge it and make sure I read it and add Roux and the parents this morning. I normally re-index nightly so it should all appear later. I don't think it is Dietburg of Fei - I think it is FCI (Fci).
Leave it with me. Sadly, I am not sure I can approach the breeders of her sire and dam for more information. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't hesitate.
Dad is obviously a half-brother to the two Belaxes I have already. His registration number ending in /18 indicates he was born either late 2017 and registered in 2018 or he was born and registered in 2018. Are you in touch with his breeder and could you ask about siblings ? I have Antonio Almeida as the breeder of Belaxe Top Gun and
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@roux said in Hello from Taipei, Taiwan!:
How do I go about registering Roux in your database?
I did it already and uploaded it. It is a fascinating pedigree. I see she also has FCI (Federation Canine Internationale - or something like that !) in her name so expect Mom was also bred somewhere near China ? Therefore, forget any reference to Poland in this instance.
Can you confirm her country of birth so I can add it to her entry and her mother's. The similar registrations (KCT) indicate they are the same. We can change Mom's name very easily if we find we have read it incorrectly. Her parents now have registration numbers !
Please try to get photos of the parents if you can and persuade the breeder to tell you of siblings.
Going back to your descriptions of her behaviour - there is nothing there that I have not witnessed over and over again or which doesn't go on in my house right now ! Roux is a very well balanced, typical Basenji Madame !
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@zande
Wow this is wonderful! I had no idea this was such a small world!
Unfortunately, I'm only in touch with the breeder of Roux here who owns Belaxe Chinatop and Dietburg, and he imported them. I can ask about their siblings, but I'm not sure how much info I'll get! Any specific questions? I'll have to translate into Chinese for him.
Fei might be just Fei because in Chinese it probably means to fly
I can indeed confirm that Roux was born here in Taiwan, and I found that KCT means Kennel Club of Taiwan!
Here're Roux's parents:
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@roux The world of Basenjis is tiny ! So many of us know each other or are related through our Basenjis. Such a shame that so many are missing from the database - I guess some folks are just not interested in where their pets come from or in details of their parents.
Not sure that I could use that particular picture in view of what is going on ! Individual pictures of the parents would be great.
What I would like from Roux's breeder, as I have her parents, is confirmation of Mom's name, and the registered names of any brothers and sisters.
Registered names of Dad's AND Mom's brothers and sisters too.
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LOL you know I only realized what's going on in the photo when I saw it blown up on this much bigger screen! HAHAHA so sorry I subjected y'all to that!
I'll see what I can get from the breeder!Michelle Chiang
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@roux - Klassic & Kazor are in my C-Me's pedigree. Her registered name is GCH DC Klassic-Tanza Color Me Tri.
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Michelle Chiang
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@roux - That is so true, we are family! Again Welcome... you can see some of the Tanza kids at my website, link below.
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@zande
So the breeder got back to me and it turns out he kept all three of her siblings for himself! I guess that's a good thing? I got the pick of the litter LOL
Here are Roux's siblings:
He said he's only got the parents', and not their siblings' information, but he'll email their breeders about that. He'll get back to me with photos of the parents when he gets back to his computer
I searched for Roux and she's on there! This is so cool! I need to pose her very professionally for her database picture
Michelle Chiang
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@roux Great ! I had car problems today but will enter them tomorrow and its wonderful that he will provide photos etc !
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@roux said in Hello from Taipei, Taiwan!:
@zande
LOL you know I only realized what's going on in the photo when I saw it blown up on this much bigger screen! HAHAHA so sorry I subjected y'all to that!
I'll see what I can get from the breeder!Many of us have witnessed this in real life. First time I've seen a photo of it.
Lynn B.
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@zande Here's Roux's dad (red and white) and mom (tricolor)!
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Thank you very much for these, Michelle, but I think it fairer to Forums to move on to private email. Please could you send any further data (and I hope there will be lots over time !) to me to my email address ?
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@zande will do! Apologies for the lack of forum etiquette knowledge, I've actually never been in one before... learning new things every day LOL
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@roux No apologies necessary. Love the pictures and the back story. Keep posting!
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@roux Not a question of etiquette ! Just that I have long since learned that (sadly !) 99% of forum members are not interested in pedigree data and I hesitate to bore them, beyond my normal pleas for names and parentage when a new Basenji is introduced. Which, also sadly, fall on deaf ears most of the time
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@zande Well I for one, am super impressed by how we're all only slightly separated by one or two degrees! History and connection are important and I hope more people contribute their information!
