@donc - Not true that breeders traditionally breed for conformation only. Breeders (responsible breeders) breed for health, temperament and conformation. Health/temperament is at the top of the list. Breeders do of course look for certain conformation but that does not exclude Health & Temperament.
Breeding my 2 year old Basenji
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@DebraDownSouth Stay out of my business. You must not have a job, so please get on.......call my Vet..... why would I lie about that and why would allow a crazy person to chastise a good vet, just because you dont agree with a comment......zeez
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@katoman said in Breeding my 2 year old Basenji:
@DebraDownSouth Stay out of my business. You must not have a job, so please get on.......call my Vet..... why would I lie about that and why would allow a crazy person to chastise a good vet, just because you dont agree with a comment......zeez
You can always tell when someone is so mad spittle is spraying the screen... they start calling names and insults. Discussing irresponsible breeding is one thing. Your above attempt at what? Insult? Is pathetic. You are on a public board. You tell your business so it's rather funny to tell me to stay out of it. Please, try to stop frothing. No matter how many juvenile insults, it won't make you a responsible breeder. No matter how many screams about YOUR BUSINESS, it is still sadly obvious that you are the one here telling your business and admitting you asked advise before... and throwing a tantrum because you didn't get the response you wanted. Again, don't want opinions? Keep your business private. No one needed to know about your family jewels or your backyard breeding. You spew stuff, you get responses. If you can't handle it, move on. Otherwise, stop crying over negativity when responsible people consider irresponsible breeding to be a bad thing.
As for people WANTING to breed responsibly, most folks will help. You didn't want info on breeding responsibly. That would have required you neuter your pets, seek out a well bred dog with good health testing for several generations, finding a mentor, and doing it responsibly. It would require that you are within spitting distance of comprehending genetics and the importance it plays in health. What you wanted was people to say, ah how sweet you want puppies from your mixed breed and no-info-on-background pet. You didn't get it, and seemingly years later still crying.
At this point, will let you keep digging that low ditch with your personal insults. It's a shame someone starts a thread and you hi-jack it for your own ranting whine. THAT person may actually want to learn how to do it right, unlike you. You truly aren't worth another typed word.
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thank you - finally you will move on. Please stick to you word and don't waste anymore time responding.
As far as hijacking the thread, I answered her question with my experience. Noticed she disappeared after your comment. Most people don't want to confront comments, simply because they get into a "trump like" conversation with someone who has no idea how to act in a public forum. FYI, she messaged me and thanked me for the comment.......
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@katoman said in Breeding my 2 year old Basenji:
Well let's start at the top... no one asked for your opinion, I did not risk my pet's life, and the proof of it, she is alive and well .....and has always had a clean bill of health from the Vet, and I might add, the vet warned me about people like you, and said most have no idea what they are talking about, they read a few articles and they then have a MD license in pet breeding.
I want to see say something here, and I think it is something that anybody who is considering breeding their dog has to think about (and, probably, the majority do not). The world has more than enough dogs, so many that the shelters have to kill them, and for every puppy born, another dies in a shelter for lack of a home.
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@katoman Ok ~ each person is entitled to an opinion ... doesn't mean that the opinion is right or wrong! It would be a very boring world if everyone had the same opinion about everything. The 4 pups that went to other homes, I'm guessing you still have contact with all of them & am wondering, did any of them breed using the pups? If so, why not post some pictures of them? Tell us what mix they are now! But the thread is titled "Breeding my 2 year old Basenji" which has nothing to do with your male genitalia so please, stop with your genitalia comments! Thank You!
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@katoman said in Breeding my 2 year old Basenji:
@Nancy-Berry there is nothing that mentions genitalia, you might be confusing the work genetic -OMG this is hilarious.
You maybe were not awake or fully in control of your faculties, so you might want to reread your own post
There is no law requiring to neuter them, it's a choice, and I am pretty sure I live in America still. Just because I am not a vegan, and I choose to eat meat, or I don't smoke, (I have never smoked )...its my right not too nor because I decided to have 2 real human children and not cut my ba!!$ off, and you might be all of those who wags a finger at all that, that's your right to do as you please, without my comments as it is my right as well.<<
"not cut my .... off" .... genitalia there, not genetic. LOL. Yes it is hilarious.
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@DebraDownSouth I'm glad someone else knows what genitalia means! He said it....no getting around it!! And besides.....who cares if he does or doesn't cut his b...$ off? Not me! He's getting so angry, he can't even talk right!! That's bad for the blood pressure!!
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@katoman Well woop dee doo! Your son was in the military! So was I ~ along with thousands of others! I'm glad he's helping with Pit Bulls...they are terriers but people forget that last word. And idiots make money off of fighting them which is disgusting!
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Now she mocks the military...
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Says she was also in the military isn't mocking it. It was point out that your son being in the military has nothing to do with the topic, any more than her being in it. Nor does Trump have to do with it. Nor does your family jewels. Nor does calling people names. Nor does most of the other stuff. Are you capable at all of discussing dogs like a mentally stable adult without the abusive rants and stuff? Give it a try.
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Having been a 'dog person' all my life I decided to get a dog after starting a family with my wife. Tried the local shelters but couldn't find a dog that I felt was 'right'.
My first B came from a pet store, I knew nothing about Basenjis and the owner said they are great dogs, good with kids and very loyal etc, he came with an AKC pedigree. I figured he would be great as he had a pedigree.
Many years later I found out by research he came from a puppy mill in Kansas. His health was problematic after the first two years, he was also prone to pancreatitis. At six years old he developed diabetes, with the constant testing, insulin and needles. It worked out around $2000 a year for five years until he passed at eleven, so around $10,000. Still, I didn't really care so much about the money as he was such a good dog. The constant care was hard, he needed monitoring almost 24/7 as he was a brittle diabetic and his sugar was hard to control. Many late nights staying up late and every morning was early to test him.
He coped with it well although I know he did not like the injections sometimes, we got different size needles which helped and became experts at injections. Still, I would wish no dog to have to go through that.
Our other two Basenjis we got from a reputable breeder, our oldest is ten in a few days and has been very healthy her whole life. She is showing elevated liver enzymes now on routine blood work but shows no other symptoms. Our youngest is three and is also very healthy.
So, to me it seems insane to buy any basenji without full health testing and from a reputable breeder.
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I am sorry about your first dog. Having had rescues with serious health issues, I understand the desire for getting the healthiest possible. Sometimes, even with the best of breeders (like our Samoyed), problems can be a firestorm of bad luck. But your chances are so much better with good breeders.
Not sure if it will help, but I have used milk thistle for my liver for 14 yrs. The research on it is not strong, but it can't hurt. And it's not expensive. I put nothing in me without my liver doc's approval, btw.
https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/milk-thistle-or-silymarin (for pets)
http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/milk-thistle/evidence/hrb-20059806 (for people)
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Yes you can be unlucky with anything, but doing everything you can to ensure a healthy dog should be the top priority.
My girl has had blood work every year just as routine after my firsts problems. She has no symptoms, we just caught it on the yearly two years ago she slightly elevated, last year she was more elevated.
We first started just Nutramax denamarin, three months later it made no difference to her readings.
We switched her to Dr Dobs detox diet and Nutramax denamarin, went back after three months and her levels went up!
So now we have her on regular food, denamarin in the morning, milk thistle in the afternoon and twice daily 1000mg of fish oil.
Due to go back in February and see if that works. If not we will probably have to ultrasound. All her other blood work is normal so that is a good thing.
