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  • tanzaT

    We think these will be nice litters… and yes, I am looking forward to some "tri-ing" pups...

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • E

    Two sets of puppies, how exhausting! I am curious to know what color puppies can result from this combo, tri & red.

    Will it be mostly reds, mostly tris, can there be any blacks or brindles?

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  • lvossL

    Since both of the red sires are tri factored there can be both reds and tris. It is 50:50 probability of each. Black and Brindle are dominant colors meaning one of the parents must be the color to get the color.

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  • tanzaT

    @EskiLovr:

    Two sets of puppies, how exhausting! I am curious to know what color puppies can result from this combo, tri & red.

    Will it be mostly reds, mostly tris, can there be any blacks or brindles?

    When I bred Maggii (Tri factor red to Tri Factor red) we got 3 reds, 3 tris, when I bred Fatia (Tri Factor red) to a Tri, I got 2 reds, 2 Tris, when Marilyn bred her Gabii (Tri factor red) to a Tri, she got 1 red, 5 Tris…

    And while I would love to have a Tri... the only way to be sure of that would have been to bred Tri to Tri.... so in the end, we get what we get...ggg

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • E

    Can you imagine TWO LITTERS worth of tri-ing pups though? Holy cow, that would be serious work, keeping them all out of mischief! I cannot imagine two litters worth of B's at all, let alone all tri's

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  • tanzaT

    @EskiLovr:

    Can you imagine TWO LITTERS worth of tri-ing pups though? Holy cow, that would be serious work, keeping them all out of mischief! I cannot imagine two litters worth of B's at all, let alone all tri's

    I would love it…..gggg

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • QuercusQ

    Are you whelping either litter at your house, Pat? or both?

    I am still on the fence about doing the litter I have been thinking about for years. I don't know if I can handle the extra work load!! I also have to finish Luna's testing…better get on the ball....

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • tanzaT

    @Quercus:

    Are you whelping either litter at your house, Pat? or both?

    I am still on the fence about doing the litter I have been thinking about for years. I don't know if I can handle the extra work load!! I also have to finish Luna's testing…better get on the ball....

    Parry will be whelping Kylie's litter and then I will take the pups at about 5wks to my house (we only live 10 miles apart)… Kacii's litter, it depends if she will whelp at Leighton's or my house, but then we are only 2 blocks apart... a lot with Leighton's depends on how Ken is doing as he is very ill.

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • S

    Should be lovely b's. I was lucky enough to meet the Leightons at the EBC specality.
    Sorry to hear Ken isn't doing well.
    I will send prayers his way.

    Sharron Hurlbut

    BRAT, basenji rescue

    Evergreen basenji club

    Seattle Purebred Dog Rescue

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  • K

    Hope everything goes smoothly Pat.

    Andrea, go for it. I'll just steal them from you when they get to be too much. :) The twins are not part of the deal though! lol

    Kelli Harmon

    Kiroja Basenjis

    Southgate, MI USA

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  • QuercusQ

    @kiroja:

    Hope everything goes smoothly Pat.

    Andrea, go for it. I'll just steal them from you when they get to be too much. :) The twins are not part of the deal though! lol

    Ha, Ha!!! Are you ssuuuurrree? The twins are pretty cute now! But puppies still *might be cuter! I will give the puppies to you when the poop starts getting tracked all over the place!

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • K

    Sounds like a plan! lol

    Hmm, you're right, it would probably be a toss-up. But I'll stick with the 4 legged variety, it's what I know best. :)

    Kelli Harmon

    Kiroja Basenjis

    Southgate, MI USA

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  • dmcartyD

    Thank you for taking the time to save some of the fine points of Jaadii - he was a wonderful dog with too much to offer the breed to not be used - I'm so glad that we have the fanconi test and can now do this.

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  • tanzaT

    @dmcarty:

    Thank you for taking the time to save some of the fine points of Jaadii - he was a wonderful dog with too much to offer the breed to not be used - I'm so glad that we have the fanconi test and can now do this.

    Thanks Dianne, that is what Parry and I thought too… He is the last of that line of breeding coming from Ken and Marilyn too, much to want to save in those lines... at least we think so... he goes back to some of my favorites. I am just glad that Parry had him collected and didn't toss the sperm when he started spilling.

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • A

    Hello,
    Our plan in this fall : http://www.freewebs.com/africanbasenji/litters.htm - choose after the tests… the sire will red-white, from USA. we waiting great show dogs from the litter...

    visit my site ![](images/smilies/rolleyes.png "Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)")

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  • nobarkusN

    What's the latest news on this Pat!

    Buddy, Paolo and Dan

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  • lvossL

    I hope the bed we sent home with Parry is helping to inspire Kylie that it is truly time to come into season.

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  • tanzaT

    Looks like this breeding will not happen after all.. at least we are 85% sure it will not… due to circumstances beyond our control

    Pat Fragassi

    Tanza Basenjis

    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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  • nomrbddgsN

    Sorry to hear that Pat. I know how it is to get your hopes up for a specific breeding and then get them dashed.

    Arlene, the Basenji Brats with the Boxenji![](images/smilies/biggrin.png "Big Grin")

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  • nobarkusN

    I'm sorry to hear that Pat. I was excited for you too.

    Buddy, Paolo and Dan

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    Well, while Lisa is enjoying her pups (and yes I am jealous…ggg)... We are still waiting for Mz Kylie to be bred, however today Baily was very insistent that he be able to spend time with her...gggg, so with any luck we will get a breeding today or tomorrow... if so we should be expecting at the end of January
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    @Quercus: <> Right...I wasn't sure if that was the litter that Sue was referring to? But I don't know of her doing any other brother/sister breeding. So yes, Ariel is a product of that breeding. The idea was to do a test breeding to see what genetically, if anything, might be brought out. By doing an inbreeding, you can 'expose' recessive genes, and see what you've actually got. You can also set (as in permanantly set) type...but, that wasn't the goal in Sue/Jeff's breeding. In this case, the two "best" "typey" puppies from this litter will most likely be bred on from, as long as they test out as genetically and physically healthy, they will most likely be out-crossed, to bring in different genes. Ariel's brother, George, is quite stunning, and is easily the best looking puppy in the litter. Ariel has a beautiful head, but is long in body, short in leg. Neither one is what we consider a "show dog" ;) And the litter's sire is quite handsome!.... the dam of the litter, while long in the back and short on leg (like it sounds Ariel is) has a great temperament... both are great to build on the future.... and breeding out from these pups will be great to build on too.... I am pretty sure that would be the breeding Sue was talking about, like you I don't know of any other brother/sister breeding she and Jeff has done.