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  • renaultf1R

    @Quercus:

    Well, yeah…as a former ape keeper who worked with all three great apes (Gorillas, Orangs and Chimps) I can tell you that chimps are feared the most by keepers. That isn't to say that you can't have great, strong, loving relationships with them...but wow, they can do so MUCH damage so quickly when they are angry. And sadly, when they attack they often go for the groin, and the face...makes sense if you want to seriously damage your opponent.

    We have an old (but true) joke in the zoo world. If you go to a primate conference, and shake someone's hand, if they are missing a finger (or more) they are probably a chimp keeper ;) In twelve years of working with apes, the only one that hurt me (not badly) was a chimp who raked my hand with her fingernails, just to show me that she could ;)

    Andrea…you have the MOST interesting and entertaining stories. :):D

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  • QuercusQ

    @renaultf1:

    Andrea…you have the MOST interesting and entertaining stories. :):D

    Thanks :) It was a GREAT, and fun and exciting job. I miss it a lot…but I don't miss all the human politics.

    Now I am just a boring mom of three ;)

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • bellabasenjiB

    Andrea, I bet it was fascinating working with the primates! I always wanted one as a child, LOL. But after hearing the 911 call from this attack, I am understanding how dangerous they can be… This is a sad story, this lady... did she have experience working in a zoo or something? What made her think (originally) she could properly care for this animal? I hope her friend makes a recovery, I am sure she is scarred for life. I pray for her that she can be able to have some kind of a decent life in the future.

    _**Lisa Lynn ![](images/smilies/smile.png "Smile")

    BRAT Basenji Rescue, &

    Mid-Atlantic Basenji Club**_

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  • V

    @LiveWWSD:

    haha.. This is a GREAT thread.

    I plan my life around my furbabies. I couldn't imagine life without dogs in it. They really do teach us to stop and enjoy the simple pleasures. :)

    Awww, I love the term 'furbabies.'

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  • S

    @bellabasenji:

    Andrea, I bet it was fascinating working with the primates! I always wanted one as a child, LOL. But after hearing the 911 call from this attack, I am understanding how dangerous they can be… This is a sad story, this lady... did she have experience working in a zoo or something? What made her think (originally) she could properly care for this animal? I hope her friend makes a recovery, I am sure she is scarred for life. I pray for her that she can be able to have some kind of a decent life in the future.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/garden/26primates.html?_r=1&em

    An interesting article the Times did on primates as pets.

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  • bellabasenjiB

    Yep, I definitely think I will stick to Basenji love!!!:rolleyes: I don't think I want to share the bed with a primate anytime soon, LOL!:D:D:D

    _**Lisa Lynn ![](images/smilies/smile.png "Smile")

    BRAT Basenji Rescue, &

    Mid-Atlantic Basenji Club**_

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  • QuercusQ

    @Shelby:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/garden/26primates.html?_r=1&em

    An interesting article the Times did on primates as pets.

    Wow….I had to stop reading because that was so disturbing. Those people are sooo warped; and those poor primates are paying for it.

    I particularly hated the part where the guy who has the baboon said "he holds your hand, and looks into your eyes like he loves you....but, he can't"....OMG! So you keep him in a tiny box of a room watching TV because you care so much about him...yuck....

    And they all have stories about their primates savagely attacking them....sounds like a clue that they aren't great pets, huh?

    Oh...don't get me started..this is a Basenji group....I will stick to that topic :)

    Andrea Walters

    Quercus Basenjis

    NW Ohio

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  • BarklessdogB

    To me owning a basenji is similar to owning a wild animal in that you have to respect the animal and not expect them to be obedient. Expecting them to be human or make them so is a false assumption.

    Because of this you do have to earn their love and respect. That is very rewarding when you gain that.

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  • ForexjohnnyF

    Yes basenji?s are wild animals but then so are we. We, unlike basenji?s, are also primates and I for one would not like a human for a pet. They do far worse things than any monkey can. I would not want to try and make basenji?s human any more than I would try to make myself a basenji. We both have our own unique characteristics. I think that in some ways we are very different but in other ways we are very similar. Relationships are always compromises but it is the similarities that draw us together whether human to human or human to animal. That a basenji can remain independent and yet still choose to love us is nothing short of remarkable. Love is the strongest emotion any being can feel, not something to be given lightly. As humans, we can recognize this and we lucky few, that know the love of our ?furbabies?, can only return that love in kind and wonder at how lucky we really are. No wonder that the death of a beloved pet is equated to that of a human family member. Maybe even more so.

    John Forrest

    Western Australia

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  • BarklessdogB

    Love is the strongest emotion any being can feel, not something to be given lightly. As humans, we can recognize this and we lucky few, that know the love of our ?furbabies?, can only return that love in kind and wonder at how lucky we really are. No wonder that the death of a beloved pet is equated to that of a human family member. Maybe even more so.

    I agree totally. These dogs really become a part of you. One of the best pet experiences I ever had.

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  • wizardW

    I think Buona said it best…

    "I think most of the other people need therapy..
    Therapy from the BEST doctors in the world... --> B's"

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    @Thana: she does have basenji characteristics then apart from her colours and looks.- i also think she must have some basenji blood! She is lovely and lucky no matter what! adorable little face:))))) Having read about the characteristics I think she does. The lady with the basenji that we met also commented on some of the things she was doing as "very basenji" (eg. standing on her back legs so she could see what was going on). Has a lovely wrinkly forehead too. Got very frustrated with me earlier and did her funny bark, more of a wierd howl really. She is def one of a kind. Its a shame we have to have her spayed (not that I could ever justify letting her have a litter).
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    @Shaye's: If your baby yodels for you, your husband and your son, don't feel bad, they know who does all the work. At least Zoe yodels. My little girl has never yodeled, and on five occasions now in the past month, has barked - barked like a dog, each time when something made her nervous/scared. So depressing. I had a thread on here a couple of months back about how zoe at about 4 months had never yodeled. Someone told me to try and encourage her by egging her on. I did this until I was hoarse but I finally got her to yodel. Now she seems to be doing it more and more. We dont have a fence yet so when we are outside I keep zoe tied. When my husband gets home he stays just out of her reach until she gets so frustrated she yodels then we praise her and get all excited with her. Same with kitchen boundary. She isnt allowed so we stand in the kitchen untils she yodels (This is my problem they say I give up to quick lol) If we baroo she will usually yodels faster. My son came home today and again she ran to the kitchen door and yodeled for him right away didnt need to baroo at her once. BTW zoe also will let out what almost sounds like a bark when she is startled. Sounds alot like when you get the air knocked out of you. Or her baroo got cut short. She did it three times when kids came behind her on boards and startled her one after the other 1 burf sound for each.
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    My Rue is pretty perfect. She is mixed with something (I don't know what) so she doesn't look like a real B… and she isn't interested in anything in our house (chewing wise), doesn't bolt out the door, and licks like CRAZY! She also doesn't really like to play with other dogs at the dog park, she just smells them, occasionally chases them, then comes back and lays down by me (EXERCISE DANG IT!). The only normal B behaviors that I see in her are the little noises that she makes (she makes a lot of them for different reasons) and her BAROOOOOOO (which is fitting because we named her Rue before we even knew she was a Basenji) and it seems like she is stubborn about sitting. It's like she is saying, "yeah I know you want me to sit, but first I'm gonna spin around in a circle. Then maybe I'll sit if I feel like it." Haha! She is a character!