This is an old thread, but we'd love to hear updates. Still very fitting with our on-going issues with Mowgli's separation / confinement anxiety. Lola? Mldawson?
Morning Tantrum in Crate
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Having them sleep in a crate till morning (regardless if it is their morning or yours) is crate training… and honestly if they wake up after 6 or 7 hours, regardless if you withhold water, they will still need to pee most likely... Sounds to me like that might have been her regular wake up time...
I would say let her go pee and all go back to bed...ggg... that is what I always did.... that became their special time...
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We have done that before too
Two always sleep in the bed with us, but we have done a morning switch...before Ethan came along.....the little early riser that he is...I haven't gone back to bed in almost four years!_ -
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We have done that before too
Two always sleep in the bed with us, but we have done a morning switch...before Ethan came along.....the little early riser that he is...I haven't gone back to bed in almost four years!__
LOL…. yes for some reason those human children just don't get the cuddle under the covers...like a Basenji... ggggg_ -
before Ethan came along…..the little early riser that he is...I haven't gone back to bed in almost four years!
Andrea that's a scary thought :eek: I'm already up at 6am all week & no going back to bed for us :eek: :eek: I can't imagine doing this even earlier..uuuughhh lol
BTW-mine usually have to go pee as soon as they wake up too!
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Well, this morning was a complete turn around. At about 6am, Lola woke up. I could hear her, but she wasn't in tantrum mode yet. I took her outside where she peed right away. Then we went in and she curled up and slept in the bed with us for another hour. The rest of the morning was easier too, because she stayed on the bed for a while with my husband while I got ready for the day. It was a real treat. Thanks for the advice!
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Super, glad that it worked out….. I am sure she loved her special treat of sleeping in bed with you guys!
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HA!! Bingo…we have a winner!
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Boy, did she ever love it! We loved it too! An actual quiet morning and snuggling with Lola…what could be more perfect than that?
In fact, when we went to bed last night, she expected to sleep in the bed with us right away. She put up a little fuss when we crated her, but calmed down pretty quickly. I'm a little worried about her continuing to put up a fuss and always wanting to be on the bed, but I'm hoping she'll just get used to the drill.
I want to get some steps for her too, because the bed is a little high for her. I've heard that can be bad for the joints in the long run.
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I wouldn't think that the bed is too high and being young (15 months), should never be a problem for a Basenji…. and I am sure she will get used to the drill.... she might always fuss a little just to see if "maybe" she can go to bed with you... but sounds to me like she understands...
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Well, I just experienced a little Basenji owner embarrasment. I work at a church and live next door. My husband and I put Lola in her crate, went to lunch for 1 hour and returned. Apparently, she was making so much noise that a neighbor came over to the church because they thought she was being abused or something was dreadfully wrong.
They could hear her in the church office too. The secratary at our office even let herself into the house to check on her. All she did was say her name to try and calm her down and then she left. Needless to say they weren't happy and I was totally embarassed. I then called my husband who said she peed in the crate.Any thougts? I'm not sure why this was a big deal. It makes me wonder if we're not setting up our relationship as the alfa correctly and that obedience class is something we should start asap…even if it's mostly for our education. I mean, I don't think this is about having to pee. She did that earlier this morning and it seems she should be able to hold it longer.
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Do you usually crate her when you go out? Was this something different in her schedule? If she is not normally crated when you go out then it is something she will need to learn. Dogs do not generalize well so when something changes it is sometimes like training the behavior all over again. Also, I always potty my dogs before going into the crate. It is part of their routine. They go out to potty then come in and get their crate treat in their crates.
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We've never left her home alone without crating her. My husband is iften home, so we haven't had to crate her much outside of nighttime. We should have taken her out right before. You're right that it's not part of a regular routine. Sometimes we do it for dinner, but I don't think we've ever done it for lunch. Do you give her a treat that she can take a while to eat, like a bone? We just gave her a little jerky treat for getting into the crate.
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For sure she should have toys in her crate… and maybe a kong filled with goodies for her... and yes of course a walk before the crate would be in order... I would never just expect them to "hold it" because they went earlier in the morning...
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I'm so glad I found these forums
I'm embarassed at how little I know, but grateful that you are all so willing to share your wisdom. You know, this is my first dog ever. :oAll we have are fuzzy toys and we've been waiting for the previous owners to send her other toys. We should probably get her something more interactive or something to chew on. Any suggestions for good crate toys?
Kongs are new to me too. I'll have to get one of those and fill it with something fun. No peanut butter though…I'm seriously allergic to nuts.
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I have used various things but stuffed kongs or a stuffed sterilized bones are favorites. You can actually seal the ends with a little cream cheese and have the middle stuffed with their breakfast, lunch, or dinner so they are really just eating their regular meal with a couple of hidden surprises to make it interesting. It is like hidden treasure for them and mine will pull them out of their crates at the end of the day just to check to make sure they got every last bit of flavor out of them.
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I think she is just going thru an adjustment period. The most important part is to never let her out of her crate, or pay attention to her when she is screaming in her crate.
It is a good sign that she is fussing when you leave, it means that she is bonding with you, and doesn't want you to leave. Keep in mind that it probably wasn't her choice to leave her last family…and she may have some separation anxiety because she is wondering where they went. But no matter how heart wrenching that is, you have to be firm on the rules of no attention when fussing, and not baby her. She will get used to your routine soon.
Tell your co workers that all that noise is normal
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Thanks for the support. I think you're right about her having separation anxiety. Whenever my husband or I leave the house, the other is left with a panicky little girl.
I think we're going to have to be really strategic about when we crate her. I have a feeling that if she put up another fuss when my co-workers were there, they would be very unhappy. I should have warned them ahead of time. They were sort of left having to answer questions and they didn't know what to say. It was a surprise to them that this could happen.
I actually went and talked to the neighbors and they were really understanding. At first they thought a baby was being abused. They were just worried about Lola's safety.
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Hmmm, many a Basenji owner has been accused to "beating" children when their Basenji is unhappy!!! So much for so many of these web sites that say they are quiet???… NOT
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lovinglola, I feel your pain. Dash did that at first when he was small. I agree with Andrea that she is adjusting. Please be patient. I think a routine of when she gets in the crate would help or even put her in there when you are home but only for a minute and let her out only when she calms down. But chew toys and something she can destroy will help her stay busy for a while. Good luck.
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Thanks for the support. I think you're right about her having separation anxiety. Whenever my husband or I leave the house, the other is left with a panicky little girl.
I think we're going to have to be really strategic about when we crate her. I have a feeling that if she put up another fuss when my co-workers were there, they would be very unhappy. I should have warned them ahead of time. They were sort of left having to answer questions and they didn't know what to say. It was a surprise to them that this could happen.
I actually went and talked to the neighbors and they were really understanding. At first they thought a baby was being abused. They were just worried about Lola's safety.
Did Katie say whether crating was an issue at Lola's former home? If so, you might need to retrain her to staying in a crate. But it sounds like she often stays in there quietly, right? Is there somewhere you can place her crate where it is less likely to be heard if she screams?
It usually best to come up with a crate routine for each time you leave. Make it sweet and simple. Chew treats (kongs, bones, stuffed with yummies) put in, dog goes in for a food reward, you say 'bye, be good' and walk out the door. The more stressed you get, and the more you fuss over her, the more her anxiety rises. Also, there is the DAP diffusers you could try. They diffuse some sort of dog calming pheremone. Lots of people have used them with quite a bit of success. Google it and you will find plenty of info.
I think the more strategic you get, the more stress it causes…just do what you need to do...give it a couple weeks, let your co-workers know it will get better...and see where you are then.
