• jys1011-where can I get an expen? is that better than a baby gate?


  • My 9 year old is still the worst about getting into trouble when he wants attention. So if you are waiting for your dog to calm down when it's older, it will probably be a long wait.



  • Ivoss I think this is better than the crate looks good to keep him out of my hair, literally. Their are different sizes which one do u use?


  • The expen helps when they don't want stay in another room alone or you don't want to leave them in another room alone. We have several baby gates so that they are in my sight at all times…like if I'm in the kitchen I use the baby gate so they don't go wandering off to the living room. If I'm in the living room I use the baby gate to make sure they stay in the living room.

    They're both useful but the baby gates stay put. The expen helps if you need something more adaptable like when folding laundry 🙂 or when my husband was trying to assemble something with screws & parts & such 😃

    Believe me you will find BOTH very useful 😃 😃


  • Thanks well 4 sure the baby gate will be used this weekend and I will definetly keep in mind the epen…wondering if I can put myself in there while I'm doing my floor exercises...lol


  • I'll comment on a bunch of things at once!

    The crate thing and punishment. Turn it into something positive-put him in there with something he likes-presto it's not punshment anymore! (works for some-but not all dogs)

    Slow Down?? (that's why I said yeah,right) It doesn't happen! I'm laughing with you all not at you.

    Hope your's isn't a climber. I put Sugar in an x-pen for 1/2 a second-she climbed out! I'm going to look for one with a lid that ties down-or something! (I wonder if it's a tri-thing)

    As for the socks, shoes, etc. I don't leave ANYTHING down. It becomes fair game! Not the remotes, not paper, nothing. One thing-if you give your dogs pigs ears, rawhide, stuffed animals-just remember what they are made of -leather and fabric. So anything similar is also fair game. (don't get me wrong-Mine have a basket of stuffed toys, I just don't leave anything out I don't want chewed. Although my couch cushions are looking pretty sad with rounded corners and missing stuffing. Sigh…Guess I'll have to make more)


  • about the crate..this I know but how else can I punish him especially when I am ready to jump out the window.(won't do much though, I live on the first floor)


  • wondering if I can put myself in there while I'm doing my floor exercises…lol

    I didn't want to ADMIT IT but I guess I have to now since you did :eek: :eek: 😃 😃 LOL I have put myself in there when I want to do scrap booking while watching TV with the Bs so it's not at all a BAD idea!

    I ditto everything Arlene has said. There is NOTHING on the floors & I mean NOTHING. It's just like when you have a toddler in the house. You keep nothing within reach. I use a 48in high expen which works well both inside & out. And I have had to resort to putting Vicks Vapor Rub on the couch corners because they were looking "rounded" too LOL LOL!!

    Anyone who sits on my couches suddenly feel their sinuses cleared :eek: :eek:


  • OMG that is too funny..the whole putting urself in the expen


  • @nomrbddgs:

    Hope your's isn't a climber. I put Sugar in an x-pen for 1/2 a second-she climbed out! I'm going to look for one with a lid that ties down-or something! (I wonder if it's a tri-thing)

    I don't think it is a tri thing. Each of Sugar's cousins from my Magic litter could and would climb a barrier by 5 weeks old. At a lure trial a couple of weeks ago, a woman commented that our dogs were like popcorn because when my husband would open the top of the x-pen Rio would pop up and out into his arms.

    Here is a link for a top, http://www.petedge.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=3290&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iSubSubCat=0&iProductID=3290&AS=1

    It is not just climbers you need to be aware of though. In house where the x-pen is not staked down they can push them up and escape under them. Nicky would push the whole x-pen until he could leverage it against a wall to get out.


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    Yep, that is Querk's technique too! Nicky and Querk sound SOOO much a like :)</it>


  • Well that's out then. Champ is a wannabe escape artist (he hasn't learned how to climb) but I can see him pushing the expen throughout the house causeing a bigger mess. I look at him when he's wilding out and I just give up most times. He looks at me like what mommy let's play. What else to do but grab them, give them a huge hug and accept the fact that I'm owned by my B not the other way around. It's crazy how nuts he gets me but I love him more each day. I love holding him and kissing him, even chasing after that little brat has made life somehow better. This morning he ran into my daughters room and took her sock (what a shock it was on the floor) so I chased him and grabbed the sock, well he stormed back into the room as soon as I had pulled the sock out of his mouth and grabbed another one and started running around the house and I couldn't help but laugh. Little stinker!


  • It sounds like Champ would really benefit from a good positive reinforcement training class. It would give you a vocabulary to communicate with him and some good techniques to divert some of this behavior.


  • Yes we are planning on doing this real soon. Have someone who is good with dogs give us some basic lessons for a few weeks starting next week and are also looking into going to the petsmart classes.


  • Thanks for the site Lisa. Hmmmm-could be a family thing then. Ha Ha-sounds just like a Basenji thing. I know Shadow would lift it up too-luckily he's just too lazy! He puts himself in the crate now_with the door closed_and then lets himself out. Plus because he's such a stinker for doors,everything is baby proofed and battened down!


  • Crate, my B can't even look at it. I tried gussing it up with toys, treats, blankets. He just pulls everything out. Now I just use it as sort of a time out for a few minutes since he dosen't potty in the house anymore(only when he's left out of a room we are in).


  • Hey everyone. Our female B I don't think was ever kennel trained properly… When we first got her 6yrs ago (@ age 5), we used to put her in her kennel. She used to throw these wild fits (I call them her temper tantrums)....she would lie on her back and flail her legs in the air, whine and shriek and chew on the bars....after that we did not put her thru that again. When she is locked up with our other B then she is fine. Aside from that our 2 seem to pretty well behaved.....neither one climbs and they are never locked up, they seem to sleep all day.


  • Yeah our B is now trained and he even goes in on his own when he knows we are leaving but as soon as we come home he starts crying until we let him out. Happy to have come this far though.


  • Keoki is crate-trained at night only. When it's bedtime, he goes right in and waits for his treat, then goes to sleep for the whole night. Most morning I just about have to coax and cajole him to come out to go potty.

    Any other time he's put in the crate, like if I have to leave for a while during the day, he gets crazy. He pees everywhere and tears up whatever is in the crate. It's a disgusting, pee-covered mess. When I get home, he is clawing at the door, screaming, desperate to get out.

    I actually have day bedding and night bedding because the night bed is expensive and I've already had to sew it back together after leaving it in during a day trip. When I go out during the day, he gets some cheap fleece and paper towels.
    The stupid thing is, he goes in by himself and sleeps in his crate during the day all the time.

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