@tanza thank you for all the help. 
@basenjinyla - Your welcome, hope that helps
We've never given the lepto vaccine to our dogs but vets in our area are currently recommending it because of some recent outbreaks. We gave both our adult girls a shot recently -- never had them before -- and I think that our oldest did develop some black scale on her ears because of the shot. No way to know of course, just a coincidence and our vet couldn't find a cause.
In any event you should check with your vet since the need for a lepto shot seems highly geographically variable.
So this is a bit of a hot topic and tough to navigate, for me. But, I'd like to "think" that I've learned a bit from the expert folks on the forum here. I mean that.
I recently took my two pups to the vet. At two, instead of agreeing to the standard shots, I opted for Titer and blood tests. I can see why most pet owners just back down and take the booster shots and pills instead. The booster shot was way less expensive than the Titer test by a long shot.
Bottom line... No Distemper or Parvo shots needed for another two more years, and no heart worms or intestinal worms at all whatsoever. I don't want to inject or pill my pups unless I need to.
@jengosmonkey brought up another good point about heart worm pills. Vet keeps trying to have Nyla take ātrioā (? I think thatās the name)
@basenjinyla - I do give heart worm, but that all that I give. I use NuHeart which is only for heart worm period. None of these that in my opinion are just like giving a pup the "whooper shot"... not needed. Have a fecal done to check for worms if that is a concern.... instead of giving them something every month that they don't need.
We live in Ontario, Canada where in recent years deer ticks have also made their home. Miss Bliiss's breeder has advised me to vaccinate for lyme disease.
I personally know of three dogs I the neighborhood that have been diagnosed with lyme. Apparently it is easier to treat dogs then humans.
Is lyme disease an issue I the UK?
In regards to the multi-pills: I think your decision should be based on your location and human comfort. I live in a very humid area of NC (USA) with extremely mild (often 80s) winters. Each "Momma Tick" can lay 30,000 eggs, "Momma Flea" can lay several thousand over her lifetime. And "Momma Mosquito" only needs a Tablespoon of water to lay her eggs in. Huge families of them survive in my area year round. And I don't want them in my home. So, for (admittedly) completely selfish reasons, doodle gets 'Simparica Trio' every 6 weeks.
If you live in an area with extremely cold winters, you may not have issues with fleas. Ticks can typically be found with a good inspection when the dogs come inside. Mosquito sightings may be few and far between. You might not need something that repels all three... but, someone else might live in an area where more protection is prudent.
@elbrant thanks! Currently in WV, which in my
Opinion was a very cold winter lol. Going to do some research on the area
@basenjinyla - Typically in the winter with the first frost, heart worm is not needed till spring. I give heartworm only year round because in No. California we really don't always get a hard frost for winter and since we travel for shows, it is safer to give the heartworm then not... IMO. That depends on the area...
@eeeefarm
That's why my dogs never got the Lepto shot
@rugosab - Agreed RugosaB.... I many years ago gave Lepto until the first time I had a horrible reaction... no longer after that.... but again it is anyone's decision, but they need to research and make their decision, not just take a Vet's word for it... again, there are many that do not research and Vet's do what is "normal"... because many do not research as they would with their children. One thing that is important is yearly check ups for your pup as it would be with your human children. It is not only the cost of the pup, but the care afterwards
@tanza said in Puppy Vaccines ?:
@basenjinyla - Typically in the winter with the first frost, heart worm is not needed till spring. I give heartworm only year round because in No. California we really don't always get a hard frost for winter and since we travel for shows, it is safer to give the heartworm then not... IMO. That depends on the area...
I'd heard that recently... that some people only give heartworm pills for 6 months. NuHeart looks to be the generic version of HeartGaurd Plus. Ingredients are exactly the same, yet NuHeart is half the cost. Thanks for the heads up!
On the intestinal worms... the fecal analysis cost was about $45/pup. Not too bad. I don't think we've ever dewormed a dog that we've had. I've not researched it, but giving my dog a pill to make him poop excessively just seems wrong to me. I'm not saying I'm right. I just hate the idea of it.
@jengosmonkey - NuHeart only does Heartworm, Heartguard Plus has meds for roundworms & hookworm. And people that give heartworm for 6 months are typically people that live in climates that have a cold winter, ie: when the ground freezes. We do not have that in this part of No. California so I give it year round.
